Gallardo replacement

Agree, I don't think we will be seeing a V6 in the 458 replacement.

 

why not?
a V6 Turbo in the Cali and a V8 Turbo in the 458 replacement, this seems to be possible to me.

 

For a number of reasons.
a) Image (V6s go into entry level Maseratis, not Ferraris)
b) Economies of scales (why make 2 different engine configurations?)
c) Heritage

 

Ferrari seems to be repositioning the Cali as a "harder" car. Putting a V6 in it would seem to run counter to this.

 

As others have said, I believe the V6 is reserved for Maseratis. Anybody have an idea when the next 458 will be out? 2015?

 

Hey Tony,

I would venture that the new 458 will be revealed late in 2014. So far, Ferrari has been following the same 5 year life cycle pattern for the V8s, since the F355. The 355 was revealed in 1994, the 360 in 1999, the 430 in 2004 and the 458 in 2009.

 

Thank you for that, the reason I was wondering is that the Spider has only been out since 2012.

 

The new 458 will be revealed one year to 18 months after the new Califonia. Once the CA is shown, you can start the clock for the new 458.

 

Bob, have you heard when the California Replacement will be shown?

 

How do you know that information? Just curious.

 

Ferrari is a public company. They have to tell their stock holders what is coming up.


I was at my dealer today and he said the new CA should be available in the US Spring of 2015. That means they will announce it Fall 2014.

 

So does that mean the 458 replacement will be announced in Fall of 2015?

 

No they don't. They are allowed to keep things secret for competitive reasons.

 

I can understand some might have "advanced" information, but as someone has participated in public copanies, aside from the financial data, how and when specific product lines are communicated vary based on company philosopy. Unless extraordinary circumstances force disclosure. For example, when the CEO of Penny's was relieved of his position his replacement had to have a "plan" and it well suited the company to advertise the plan given the precipitious drop in sales/stock value. Best

 

a) Do you mean it's better for the image to use a restricted 458 successor engine? Or to use furthermore an "old engine" from a predecessor model?

b) The economies of scale take place in collaboration with Maserati.

c) Heritage? Which Heritage? The first "California" had a V12 engine (I guess). What about the Dino? What about the F1 engagement with V6 Turbo engines? Not Heritage enough?

Of course I would prefer also a V8. But also a V6 can be quite interesting. I'm personally open for this.

 

you are right, if Ferrari build FF with AWD and Laferrari with electric motor then they also put V6 into new car

 

No one actually cares about engine type. People will take what they are given. Ferrari could put anything in their cars, and so long as it was potent enough, people would buy it.

 

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A render created by someone who has already seen the car.

 

I am sorry to doubt you Mr Mayor as you are a senior member on fchat and I am not. But what you said is plainly wrong. Ferrari is not a public company, it is not listed in any stock exchange market. Anyway, that is just a technicality. I may be wrong but I am willing to state that the new Cali will be unvailed in March 2014, while the new 458 in October 2014. Cheers.

 

a) It is better for the image to use 8 cylinders or more.
b) Maserati is a sister company but their V6 engines are built at FPT, not in Maranello.
c) The Dino was not a Ferrari officially. Ferrari road cars always had 8 cylinders or more.

 

I could just as well say "I think Lamborghini have developed a car that will destroy the LaFerrari" and it would be just as credible as your rants about how it can't possibly be better/faster than the 458.

I think it would be fair if we just waited until we at least know one fact about it before we began our internet racing?

 

The 458 was a clean sheet design, brand new from the ground up. The LP560 was based on a car which came out when the Ferrari 360 was still being built. So to say that they are of the same generation is pretty unfair to the Lambo imo.

 

I do not think you say that with a straight face, lol. Its the Gallardo replacement, Lamborghini would never make the replacement be faster than the Aventador which is not as fast as the LaFerrari. I may be saying what I think is going to happen with the replacement of the Gallardo but I am not making statements that are so far off as saying the Gallardo replacement can beat a 950hp car.

 

I may be mistaken, but I believe the LP560 was actually built on the R8 platform. That in itself may be an evolution of the original Gallardo.

I'd expect the chassis of the next Gallardo to be a modified R8 chassis with hybrid aluminium and CF construction. R8s with such construction were actually shown to the press several years ago.

 

Gallardo successor seems not to be just production ready, but actually in production to have quite a few cars for dealer presentations for VIP customers that will take place around most important markets during next Jan and press unveiling will take place closer to the end of Feb, shortly before the Geneva show.

Ferrari isn't a public company, but FIAT is and we all have seen the slides from presentations about its future plans Ferrari included.

And TheMayor is absolutely right about US market though, US deliveries will start early 15 because of usual F-schedule with US spec cars being delivered with about 6-9 months delay.

And this doesn't change the fact that car is almost ready, will be launched at Geneva auto show and European deliveries will follow shortly, most likely early summer 14.

And at this point it seems very unlikely at this point - 458 Speciale deliveries have just started and US deliveries will start to commence only closer to summer next year, just unlikely that they'll unload all bulk of cars to US market in just 4 months, just makes no sense.

I would look closer to Geneva 2015 for the unveiling of 458 successor if they'll not decide to treat us with 16M-like version of 458 Spider.