Gallardo replacement

Agree... except for the interior which looks like something from a Sci Fi movie.
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Have discussed this with multiple people at Ferrari both in the UK and Maranello....

 

I'm pretty sure the next 458 will have some kind of carbon tub, 8 cyl with a smaller displacement, and 2 turbos.

Just a guess but that's the way the world (and F1) is headed.

Both the Alfa and 12c still have problems with getting in and out of the car. I'm sure this is a factor they are working around which is why it may not be a full tub.

It's not as easy as it sounds.... there are multiple factors. And, the Alfa CF tub failed US crash standards so they had to add aluminum to it anyway.

 

I hope you will soon talk with them again and they will say you something about engine for 458 replacement

 

WOW! The Huracan is a great looking car! Well done!

 

why you want TT over NA?

 

458 > huracan > 12c

 

I agree... and here's the IRONY (and my point to many of my issues with super cars today) --- no one really cares about numbers this outrageous on city streets anyway:

Performance

12c> hurcan > 458


We are in a sense all posers. We buy what we like that looks good and makes us feel good. And, to be honest, I don't see anything wrong with that.

 

12C>Huracan>F458!

See I can do that too....next time put some thought into it!

 

Not so sure about performance hurc superior to 458. Gallardo was very far behind driving enjoyment of 458. Lambo has much ground to cover before it catches up

As for 12c, turbos will always be inferior to na imo.

 

oh yea, street ride
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If it isn't... coming a full 4 years after the intro of the 458, it's a major let down. Why would you buy it? It looks pretty much like a Gallardo.

I think the DCT and better traction control will help, along with less weight and getting rid of 4wd.

 

Ferrari mid engine V8s are on a 2 model cycle. 348-355, 360-430, 458-replacement. The paired models use the same platforms with advanced engines and technology for the newer model.

 

Ferrari is adamant that CF is not ideal for the "mass produced" models.

 

I'm not sure why people need to make unflattering comparisons between the different cars - I guess it helps to rationalize their own purchase. We should celebrate the arrival of another fast car. The supercar world is richer for all the different brands. If I had the room and money, I'm sure I'd like to add a Huracan to the fleet. Anyway, the boys over at L -power are delirious.

 

Well... to be fair.. they said the same thing when mid engine cars came out both on the track and the street.

 

My issue is not that they shouldn't have made this car. I think they should have made an even bolder and more aggressive car. It's too much like the old G.

I want Lambo to shock me. It hasn't this time.

That's rather disappointing given this model has been around since 2003.

 

Ferrari will always work schematically? So we will have the same engine with bigger capacity?

 

No, I don't think so. I think it will be a variation of the Maserati twin turbo V8, which is an all new engine at 3.8 liters and 545 HP now (certainly over well over 600 when its in an F car) and most certainly with a flat plane crank and probably a larger displacement.

I'm speculating, but it makes the most logical sense. The new California will most likely also have this twin turbo motor when it shows up later next year.

 

why Maserati don't have flat plane crank?

 

Because it's reserved for Ferrari.

.... you might as well ask why the Q porte only has 545 HP when the Mac 12c also has a twin turbo 3.8 liter engine with over 600.

A sedan doesn't need it and there is some cost cutting going on.

But, I also think there is some strategic marketing going on that even though both engines are designed by Ferrari and built on the same assembly line by the same people and same equipment, one is a "Maserati" engine and the other "Ferrari". The more the technical differences, the easier it is to keep this idea alive.

 

flat plane crank change only sound? or it's something more?

 

True. Then again, they probably have a bigger margin of profit with aluminium, hence they will likely stick to it, as long as they can outdo competition.

 

The new Cali will have that engine. The new 458 though? I am a bit sceptical about that one.

 

Allows for lighter weight, less inertia in the big moving parts, giving that instant response we all love. Also rough idle... unsuitable for a sedan unless it's an FF.