Paul Walker from Fast and Furious died in a wreck... | Page 23 | FerrariChat

Paul Walker from Fast and Furious died in a wreck...

Discussion in 'General Automotive Discussion' started by Matt LaMotte, Nov 30, 2013.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. thecarreaper

    thecarreaper F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Sep 30, 2003
    18,056
    Savannah
    #552 thecarreaper, Dec 13, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  2. effer

    effer Formula Junior

    Jan 6, 2004
    814
    near Montréal
    Full Name:
    François R.
  3. ghibliman

    ghibliman Formula Junior

    Feb 19, 2009
    420
    Bad link effer..please repost, I'd like to read that.

    Edit: Nevermind, I Googled it.
     
  4. SloW8

    SloW8 Formula Junior

    Jan 16, 2010
    345
    Owner Review: Ford GT vs. Carrera GT - Rennlist Discussion Forums
     
  5. Tcar

    Tcar F1 Rookie

    Well, they are milking it... every grocery store I have been in recently has a big FF6 display.

    The crash will sell DVD's/BR's.
     
  6. Cozmic_Kid

    Cozmic_Kid F1 Veteran

    Dec 1, 2005
    7,573
    Denmark
    Full Name:
    B. Frandsen
  7. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

    Jan 1, 2007
    9,148
    Norway
  8. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

    Nov 3, 2012
    7,308
    Agree. So sad and unbelievable...
     
  9. Peloton25

    Peloton25 F1 Veteran

    Jan 24, 2004
    7,646
    California, USA
    Full Name:
    Erik
    An ominous detail from the investigation:

    Source: 'Speed and speed alone' behind deadly Paul Walker crash, source tells AP - TODAY.com

    If this holds true, it is sure to be a big influence in the loss of control. Fresh tires on a car like this are sort of a no-brainer, regardless of how much tread depth might be left on the originals.

    >8^\
    ER
     
  10. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 17, 2001
    34,430
    Full Name:
    Joe Mansion
    Gotta be pretty s***** to own a race car/tuning shop and not have your newly purchased CGT inspected and not realize you have mismatching and outdated tires. If the above is true.
     
  11. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    42,714
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
  12. ApexOversteer

    ApexOversteer F1 Veteran

    Feb 15, 2007
    5,968
    Smoky Mountains, TN
    Full Name:
    T.A. Bell
    TMZ has a LEO source familiar with the investigation that tells them no determinations have yet been made in the investigation.
     
  13. BLUROAD

    BLUROAD F1 Veteran

    Feb 3, 2006
    6,081
    Tustin Ranch, Cali
    Full Name:
    Enrico Pollini
    #565 BLUROAD, Dec 20, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2013
    No disrespect and not my OP but this is one of the comments on that article out of Japan.

    Read below.

    A Dose of Reality2 hours ago

    I _like_ the Fast and Furious films.But Paul Walker is the Jar Jar Binks of the series.The Spilner character is the protagonist and is supposed to elicit sympathy and care.Walker was such a poor actor that nearly every scene he was in is unbearable to watch.The rest of the cast raised a bad script, Walker could not rise to carry his own weight.

    The F&F films arrived _after_ the import scene was on its downward slide.The import drag racing organization mentioned in the first film closed its doors the week after the film was released.The film brought unknowledgeable fad-followers who knew nothing about cars into the scene, and they dragged it down even faster.The series was not a net gain for the import scene, and as the series progressed, it became less and less about import cars.

    Walker was not a professional racer and is not listed in the results of any organized racing event.He participated in the driving school / lapping sessions of one Redline event, but did not qualify to participate in the timed session.Rodas was not a professional racer, he was an accountant who weaseled his way into a sweet deal setting up a tax dodge for Walker to write off his cars, and then spending Walker’s money driving the shop car at events.Rodas participated as a rookie in the Pirelli series and finished at the bottom.Had Rodas survived, his racing license would be revoked.

    Walker’s charity activities accepted money from other people that was then turned over to organizations and written off against Walker’s own taxes.That’s how all celebrity charities work.Don’t confuse that with kindness or philanthropy.

    Rodas and Walker went out on a public street and managed to kill themselves driving 90+ MPH in a 45 MPH zone.From the looks of the debris field and damage, most likely 150+ MPH.They handed the road-safety-nanny-groups the most valuable argument against any and all automotive performance related activities.It will take decades before the opponents of every single motorsport and automotive related activity stop parroting the argument that “It killed Paul Walker”.

    Paul Walker had a net negative effect on the world.
     
  14. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

    May 21, 2005
    72,740
    Vegas+Alabama
    Full Name:
    Mr. Sideways
    Not an accurate post.
     
  15. Peloton25

    Peloton25 F1 Veteran

    Jan 24, 2004
    7,646
    California, USA
    Full Name:
    Erik
    That's hardly an accurate statement either. Some determinations have certainly been made by now. I will give them leeway that a final determination has yet to be made and I am glad the investigators are taking their time with it.

    Case in point, if a couple of those tires were not melted beyond recognition from the ensuing fire it really doesn't take long to check the date code and see when it was manufactured. Pretty basic stuff really - any tire jockey can figure it out in a matter of seconds:

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11

    >8^)
    ER
     
  16. ApexOversteer

    ApexOversteer F1 Veteran

    Feb 15, 2007
    5,968
    Smoky Mountains, TN
    Full Name:
    T.A. Bell
    I'm sure that is what they meant, despite the language used.

     
  17. Wtdoom

    Wtdoom Formula Junior

    Sep 30, 2012
    617
    Agartha
    Full Name:
    WT Doom
    Apparently "at least one of the tyres" was from 2004 .
     
  18. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    42,714
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    +1

    The person who posted it on the article quite simply doesn't get it. I posted the speedhunters article as I dug everything about it; The message, the cars and the photos.

    Just because an idiot commented on it doesn't take anything away from it IMO.

    I don't think anyone was about to give Paul an Oscar for his acting, but I don't think it was ever about that. He was always nuts about cars (like us) and I personally like a lot of the movies he appeared in. Not necessarily good ones but they where entertaining. He did a LOT of good in the world with his charities, and instead of getting all the news reporters in the world to film this to show how good of a person he was, it took a few days for this to come out AFTER his death. Incredibly down to earth and avoiding as much publicity as he could.

    One of the videos I saw a few years ago really cemented for me that he is just a regular car guy like us: He went to Japan and visited tuners such as Mine's. Not the thing I'd see Kim Kardashian doing...Paul Newman and Steve Mcqueen, yes.
     
  19. rnelson

    rnelson F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 3, 2005
    4,876
    It's tragic when somebody dies so young. However, as ******baggy and disrespectful as that post was...

    Paragraph 1: personal opinion, but I have to say I sort of agree with him.
    2: true, pretty much bang on.
    3: debatable and sort of irrelevant.
    4: unfounded speculation IMHO
    5: sadly mostly true
    6: dickhead opinion, sounds like jealously. Lots of postmortem stories coming out that he was a well liked and generous person.
     
  20. rnelson

    rnelson F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Oct 3, 2005
    4,876
    Paul also readily admits on that video to driving 185MPH on the California freeway. That a little, uh, excessive. And quite reckless. Keep that up over many years with the money he had and access to ridiculously awesome cars, it's not a real shocker than he eventually got into a fatal crash.

    It's terribly sad result, but really it's the ultimate lesson in the "take it to the track" message.
     
  21. DrStranglove

    DrStranglove FChat Assassin
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2003
    31,454
    Google Maps
    Full Name:
    DrS
    Sadly, I have to agree with this part. I base that on an event I was trying to plan got nuked and that was almost exactly what they said.

    :-(
     
  22. Heat Seeker WS6

    Heat Seeker WS6 Formula 3

    Nov 4, 2003
    1,704
    Milwaukee, WI
    Full Name:
    John G
    What I'm wondering about is why if they are indeed that old, why tires that old were still on it; especially if everyone around it 'should' have the understanding of importance of newer vs older or OEM rubber? And there's no question the means were there for a new tire set.
     
  23. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

    Nov 3, 2012
    7,308

Share This Page