The Michael Schumacher Career/Injury/Recovery Thread

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FORZA SCHUMI!

 

Well, we would need a lawyer (do we really need one?) qualified in these matters but I would guess that the sole owner of the medical secret, that is MS himself, is at this point unable to free the doctors of their obligation to keep the secret, so my GUESS is that the Doctors are only allowed to mention what is a direct consequence of what everybody could have publicly observed.

Outside the medical domain itself, remember that the french Law in general is still very protective of privacy (sometimes for the best, sometimes for the worst). The right to privacy is taken very seriously here.
Movie stars, politicians usually sue tabloïds, newspapers, paparazzis at the slightest violation of their privacy, and usually are able to obtain quite high amounts of damages in court (free of income taxes).
Some movie stars in particular are so good at suing at the slightest incident that there live a very happy and secretive life.

Rgds

 

According to the NYT report just out the docs report that the second surgery relieved some cranial pressure and removed some clots. The pressure is still higher than optimal and there are clots in unreachable areas. While this isn't the best of news they feel that they've bought some time and a good result is still possible.
Truth is that in these cases they just can't predict.
Godspeed Michael.

 

Not sure if this has been repeated here yet, but Fox just reported he's had a second surgery now and is showing small signs of improvement. No prognosis possible yet, but signs of bruising all over the brain.

Apparently, he hit one small rock which catapulted him, flipped him at high speed into another rock head first. Very, very bad luck.

 

David,

Seems a direct translation of what was said in french this morning during the press conference by the surgeon: (notice that he says in French: "il y en a de tous les côtés" meaning: "there are blod clots everywhere")

"On a évacué un hématome dans le cerveau lui-même. Il y en a dans tous les côtés. Cet hématome à gauche était plus volumineux et heureusement plus accessible donc on pouvait l'évacuer sans prendre de risque et contrôler la pression intra-crânienne», a déclaré le professeur Emmanuel Gay, qui a dirigé l'intervention.

Some more information for those reading french here:

Schumacher : « en légère amélioration », mais « pas hors de danger »

Rgds

 

Can't believe this type of stuff....

A journalist dressed up as a priest in order to sneak into Michael Schumacher’s hospital room, it has emerged.

The unnamed German reporter was expelled from the hospital where the seven-time Formula One world champion is being treated after the deception was noticed.

‘Apparently a journalist dressed as a priest had tried to gain access to Michael’s room,’ the 44-year-old’s spokesperson Sabine Kehm told Die Welt.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EQYimzsaW0]Michael Schumacher Tribute - When Words Are Not Enough - YouTube[/ame]

I just thought it was time to cut the mood and raise the spirits some. I just want to see Schumi jump with his arms raised to sky one last

Jim

 

I heard the hematoma to the left side of his brain was easily removed last night but he is STILL bleeding, but it's apparently controlled?

 

That's what seems to have been implied this morning during the press conference, John:

"11h21: «Encore beaucoup d'hémorragies et hématomes dans le cerveau»
«Il y a encore beaucoup d'hémorragies et hématomes dans le cerveau», affirme le chirurgien du CHU de Grenoble"

"11h21 "still at lot of hemorrageas and blod clots in the brain"
"There are still a lot of hemorrageas and blod clots in the brain", state the surgeon of Grenoble's CHU.

Rgds

 

A tiny little bit of good news to wake up to!

Again, I was dreading logging in, and gotta be honest, when I saw the thread had grown by 4 pages in a few hours was barely able to look..... Went back and diligently read everything from what I'd last read, and this happened to be at the top of the second page.

A little 'woot' as italiafan is one of the more knowledgeable on the topic! Thanks!

I'll take any tiny sliver of good news right now.

OK, we know he's still critical, but the reports of 'extremely grave' was **** journalism and not from any medical releases, correct? As someone noted, there's a world of difference in the medical world.

He's fighting like we knew he would.

Cheers,
Ian

 

So is this good news or bad?

 

Quote Dr. Hartstein:

From the media reports here, they removed the superficial hematoma on the left side of his skull. There are smaller ones deeper inside which are apparently less critical, not easy to reach and thus they're left alone.

 

Yes, all of that has been heavily repeated here. We've seen the piste map etc and details of the second operation, I suspect within minutes of the news coming out.

I know it's got to be a *long* thread, but with all due respect, please read back some before adding nothing to it other than making it longer yet!

Sorry to be whiny here, but I and many others here are pretty much unable to focus on anything else right now and are keeping bang up to date with *true* breaking news.

Cheers,
Ian

 

I'm stunned this has happened, that the injury is so bad. Hitting your helmeted head on a rock skiing doesn't typically cause this level of damage. Michael must have been moving fast.

God I'm hopeful he pulls through.

-F

 

The reports are saying that he was not moving fast at all but that he caught a rock and it catapulted him against another rock.

 

Nope. Read back thru the thread; Sabine reported he'd helped a buddy get up after a fall and was NOT going fast. Simply caught a rock which threw him onto another at the absolute worst possible angle. No 'craziness', no 'cliffs', just terrible, terrible luck it seems.

 

Thanks Florian.

I guess he remains day by day, if not hour by hour. But AFAIK none of the medical team (either involved or even those speculating) have used the term 'extremely grave', which has awful connotations in that community.

But again, as a complete outsider, I've got to believe the longer it goes on, even in a deeply induced sleep now, the better.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Any positive progress news is good. And we all know what every cell in this guys body is programmed to do. I hope to see him wake up on January 3 and say 'where's my birthday cake?"

 

In order for this to be just bad luck, a trip up, requires a critical failure in that helmet. Regardless, as with everyone else I'm in a state of shock and need to just be patient.

-F

 

That was beautiful...thumbs up, to David.

Thanks for bringing that in here. We are like a gathered mass of well wishers, if we were gathered at the hospital with candles in vigil, it would be quite impressive.

Instead we gather here, and wait with hope..

It brings into a sharp focus, the difference between sport, and life.

 

None!
I think it's all still there. .:..it's the opposite really, there's no room for swelling within the skull, so they have to open some venting to let the excess fluids out...

But, thanks for making me smile, in all of this.

Thanks also to nerofer, as I suspected he was very familiar with this mountain, making the mishap all the more uncommon and tragic. As I posted earlier the mountain changes every day.

 

Perhaps Braun can orchestrate the engineering of new materials for Michael as he may have several 'body panels' removed. May he make his ultimate comeback with the world's finest & cutting edge technology in him.

 

Video of a reporter from Bild skiing through the area; looks like just a bad set of circumstances

Michael Schumachers Ski-Unfall: BILD zeigt Schumis Unglückspiste - BILD-Reporterin in Grenoble - Formel 1 - Bild.de

 

Just some thoughts I have on the nature of the crash: Many accidents' injuries occur under seemingly benign conditions or what appears to be minor conditions. From kung fu, for example, it is not necessarily how fast or hard you hit someone inasmuch as where you hit them and how you hit the right spot for maximum damage. This appears to be the case here. He hit just right, with the perfect angle and enough force, to create the perfect trauma and helmet cracking. He also hit against immovable and jagged rock. Therefore the surface gave none and his head area with helmet absorbed virtually 100% of the force.

If you've ever bumped your head in the dark on a doorway or something above then you can already see how amazing and forceful the damage is from just merely walking normally into an immovable structure. Now multiply that by a factor of skiing speed---even if slowly skiing. It then worsens when your skis or legs stop, lock up/twist, and your upper body pivots over and slams into the rocks with your head at the extreme receiving end of the centripetal force and momentum.

Until witnesses come forth and give statements we don't actually know how he hit or led into the crash exactly. But we are all praying that he wakes up and goes through the necessary therapies to continue leading a quality life.

 

To me that looks like a dangerous area hidden from view that should have been enclosed and still isn't