2014 pre-launch thread

Don't get Me wrong, I too think that having the Scuderia shield on the engine cover is too much! - The ones ahead of the cockpit are enough!, but I can see what they're trying to achieve.

(It's funny though that the old bar-code design wasn't acceptable because people still knew it was indirectly linked to Marlboro, but this logo is acceptable. The fact that Ducati uses the same idea would emphasise to Me that it's still a Marlboro link! - After all, what other reason would Ducati have to use a nigh on identical logo to Ferrari? Apart from being Italian and racing, the only other link between the two is Marlboro sponsorship!).

It might look a bit better if the engine cover shield was @ half the size of the cockpit shield, but they're around the same size.

 

If it were me I'd put "Tallard" up in the same font as Marlboro and use reverse colors in the tratitional shape...

Tallard was the French General that Marlboror defeated at the Battle of "Blenheim" Bindenheim - the brits could not pronouce the right name... so became blenheim....

you cant actually argue its a tobacco company... kind of like buzzin hornets for bensen & Hedges... see mock up below:
View attachment marlboro tallard.pdf

 

January 28th is when we start seeing cars.

 

So nice that they got the nose down. I disliked the previous look.

Geo

 

I think this is the first time no teams are giving a concrete date for their launches.

 

23 to 25 for Ferrari

 

Any bets on the weirdest looking?

I'd say RB

 

You could be right. I'm thinking someone will have a very unique nose, some are calling it the 'saber tooth' concept which will probably be said to be 'not in the spirit of the rules'. To visualise this, have a look at the walrus nose BMW from years ago, the saber tooth concept would be similar.

This all being said, there will be no problem with frontal downforce, the front wings will not need to be overly complicated. Rear downforce is what's needed these days. As far as ideas are concerned, I haven't heard many other than some suspect the monkey seat may prove to be a mechanism that can be blown to divert air to aid the underside of the main rear wing plane.

I'm also wondering if we will see a break from the traditional two sidepod entries and have 4 total, two for each side with a divider of sorts in the center. Cooling and reliability will be big so I imagine teams will have to get creative.

 

omnicorse wrote:

In the 2014 cars there is not only the revolution of the new power unit, that dictates the return of the turbo, this time coupled with hybrid systems for better efficiency and lower fuel consumption. The new rules also determine a radical loss of aerodynamic load: the teams are looking for creative solutions to compensate, at least in part, for the lack of downforce.
With the 100 kg/h limit on fuel it does not make sense to try and find downforce just with the wings, because an higher angle of attack of the airfoils gives a big drag penalty.

INNOVATIVE REAR SUSPENSION To this end, McLaren are studying a solution for the rear that could be interesting: the Fia has banned the beam wing, which, besides acting as support for the endplates, had an important aerodynamic function.
It seems that Woking's engineers have proposed to Matt Morris, chief designer for the Mp4/29, an interesting idea, that technical director Tim Goss has approved on condition that a more traditional set-up would be developed in parallel.

A VENETIAN BLIND OF ARMS What is it about? Well-informed rumors have it that in Woking they would be building a suspension in which the track-rod arm would be positioned in cascade with the upper wishbone, in order to create some kind of "venetian blind" (maybe also together with a faired driveshaft) and replicate at least in part the effect of the beam wing. In Giorgio Piola's drawing it is shown that McLaren had started fairing the a-arms in the zone near the wheel-hub on the Mp4/28. It is evident that the engineers directed by Tim Goss have started from this solution to develop an interesting concept that could be used also by other teams. Anyway this concept is not brand new, since in 2007 a track-rod fairing was already present on the Mp4/22 designed by Mike Coughlan.

THE MP4/29 IS VERY LATE McLaren's bet could give aerodynamic advantages but it seems to have significant effects on suspension's rigidity. It is a brave move that will be shown at the car's unveil, but could be substituted with a more traditional layout in Jerez first tests, where making kilometers will be mandatory. It is rumored that the assembly of the first car is very late on the plans, so the car's unveil date could be changed, so much that maybe it will be shown directly in Andalusia...

 

2014's engines explained----"The software is going to be the key factor for performance."

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Very nice article. Top to bottom of the new power-plants.

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Lotus have passed the nose test but have admitted they won't be at Jerez test.

Probably saving a buck...

 

WOW. They are missing the most important of this century!

Something tells me all is not well with that Renault power unit. Red Bull also asked for a delay for the initial test, but everyone said no. Red Bull will still be present, but I'm sure they will be under massive pressure. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

 

I wonder why they didn't go with reversed heads?

 

That would be the day...Hope it's true.

 

The ultimate tease.


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Mclaren are going to reveal their car on their website on the 24th.

 

Cant really see the penis nose...

 

Kama Sutra really has changed!

 

I have some feeling you may be correct. I think there was something to Newey commenting about cars having "hook nose". I think we will see a team or more with the nose to come all the way down and connect to the front wing.

 

Ferrari passed the crash tests this week or late last week. The Ferrari wings will, as usual, be very simple at the first test in Jerez.

 

I would think most teams at test 1 will be very guarded ref configuration. Can't wait for it to begin!

 

....most likely photoshop, but the dolphin head doesn't look too bad ?
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Another proposed/supposed F1-2014 look:
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That doesn't look bad at all to me..... Certainly not the horrendous looking 'hook nose" everyone is so fearful of!

Cheers,
Ian

 

I don't think we will see a lot of the hook business going on. The front wings will be able to make more than enough downforce without having to make such visual compromises. The rear end downforce is where the battle will be in the aero department.