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Ron is back in control of Mclaren

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  1. Peloton25

    Peloton25 F1 Veteran

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    I never found Martin Whitmarsh to be a great replacement for Ron on the pit wall. I think Ron should be leading all aspects of McLaren until he is ready to hang up his last Hugo Boss suit and pass the reigns to another person. I am not quite sure he can be replaced so that day, whenever it comes, will pose another challenge for the brand.

    Ron has a proven ability to lead that organization through a lot of turmoil and a lot of success - I hope to see more of the latter for them of course as the success of the F1 team will have a direct impact on the growth potential of the rest of the brand. A stronger McLaren would force Ferrari to improve some aspects of their business as well I believe. A benefit, no matter which you prefer.

    If that return to success for McLaren Racing proves to be impossible in the near term then I hope that Kimi wins in a red car and that RedBull has a few seasons of despair.

    >8^)
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  2. Bas

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  3. Igor Ound

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    I think that if Whitmarsh and Button go, with Dennis and Sam Micheal, it will be the least likeable team on the grid.

    It's been reported a few times that Dennis has been trying to blackmail Whitmarsh. That's just sad.

    I think at this point honda will also be their main sponsor next year and is already financing them this season
     
  4. Peloton25

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    You don't need to be likeable to win races. Rubens Barrichello was rather likeable and he didn't win too many as I recall. ;)

    Tweet from the inside the MTC this morning:

    " The office is buzzing this morning! Mixture of excitement & panic in the air #TheRonEffect "

    That's good news in my book. :)

    >8^)
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  5. Anthony_Ferrari

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  6. Igor Ound

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    Well, he's put a lot of his money back in it. If he fails, he knows who to blame now at least.
     
  7. Anthony_Ferrari

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    I always liked Whitmarsh and never liked Ron Dennis. I am a Ferrari fan. McLaren have unfortunately done the right thing by dumping Whitmarsh.
    Whitmarsh's tenure as McLaren principle has been a disaster. How much of it is down to him and how much is poor timing we will never know, but the team needed to do something. I hope Ross Brawn doesn't go to 'the dark side', but I fear he may.
     
  8. Igor Ound

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    Many people forget that the reason he left in the first place was that he was found guilty of forcing Hamilton to lie to the FIA and to avoid further punishment he left of his own will.

    #ThePosEffect
     
  9. Peloton25

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    Ok not "found guilty" because he left before a proper investigation
     
  11. DeSoto

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    #36 DeSoto, Jan 17, 2014
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    I don´t believe in Messiahs, saviours or whatever you name it. Plus, Ron Dennis´ last 10 years where not that great. But something had to be done, let´s see what happens.

    If McLaren wins from now on we will never know if it was thanks to Ron Dennis or because Martin Withmarsh got a good deal with Honda, or just because F1 goes in cycles.
     
  12. Peloton25

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    So is whit marsh officially gone?
     
  14. Peloton25

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    They have not said that but it seems imminent.

    >8^)
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  15. Wolfgang5150

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    I'm very curious to see who they have for a sponsor. I know there was a sony rumor; have the changed the name of the team yet?
     
  16. Peloton25

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    Whitmarsh screwed up royally He had the fastest car at the end of one season
    and turned it into a Turd the following season at that too in the worst possible
    Year in which they needed a new title sponsor - IMO things are worse than they
    appear and they have NO title sponsor That's 75mill short fall in their budget
    I can't imagine why any one would want to be title sponsor for McL they are
    Getting overshadowed by RB MB & Ferrari. It not like the old days when it
    Was just Ferrari and McLaren as the top 2. - I hope I'm wrong
     
  18. Bas

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    They should have continued developing their 2012 car. Going to the pushrod front suspension (or pull rod...whatever it was that Ferrari struggled with as well) was a tremendous and unnecessary mistake.

    Their 2012 car mainly needed reliability work. Not a complete redesign when the following year the rules change...
     
  19. Peloton25

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    I am still surprised they ditched Sergio - not because I thought he was great at all, but he was well backed with money from his home country. Perhaps the access to it was based on certain performance targets and results being achieved and since they whiffed last season there was no chance of that?

    Anyway - I hope they do have a surprise in store for the new title sponsor and that the surprise is not 'no title sponsor'. Would be nice to see someone new enter the sport instead of everyone passing around the same money bags and graphics. I also hope very dearly that they race in an Orange livery this season, but I think Ron does have a fondness for that chrome finish.

    >8^)
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  20. crinoid

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    That's a strange pic IMO. Who is the silhouette supposed to be?
     
  21. Peloton25

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    No one in particular I think - 'team kit' is likely referring to their new uniforms for the drivers and mechanics. Perhaps they are holding a Hugo Boss-sponsored fashion show?

    >8^)
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  22. Igor Ound

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    Maybe the new sponsor is Fukushima power plants
     
  23. spirot

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    Ron Dennis back in full control of Mclaren is - Cant beleive I'm saying this - good news.

    Ron was ousted becuase of Mercedes board did not want to be involved with a Liar - and it also costed McLaren $100M penalty ... so kinda hard to live that one down... but if you look at it back then you could see that Dennis was scheming his way back:

    1. Appoint a soft manager - Witmarsh
    2. Engineer decline in McLaren Performance
    3. Engineer Mercedes to leave McLaren - poor results in the Mercedes Mclaren super car. etc...
    4. Set up McLaren road car production and gain big press - British Ferrari... thing.
    5. Strategically show up at races - but not seem too involved.
    6. work with your "partners and investors to buy back your long time friend TAG Oehij SP? - shares and have him step off the board.
    7. have board call youback as the day to day guy running F-1 and Road car team...
    8. wipe out all those who alowed you to fall
    9. Make deals with who ever it takes to win again- Honda etc...
    10. becomes WDC in 2016

    Having Ron Back in F-1 is actually the right place for him. wish him well. he got a raw deal on the Spy gate thing... pay te $100M - ok but have to step down - no
     
  24. Igor Ound

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    11. Get title revoked because you cheated
     

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