458's successor engine speculation

A Porsche 911 was never the benchmark regarding sound and will never be, with or without turbo (for example there are missing two cylinders).
A turbo S ranks in THIRD place in the Porsche hierarchy (charged engines). A comparison between the Speciale and the Turbo S does not make very much sense, I eagerly await a comparison with the new GT2 RS.

 

If the cali replacement in Geneva gets the bump of hp up to or slightly more than the 458, won't that negatively impact the sales of the regular 458? Who would want to purchase a 458 that has the same or less power than the entry level ferrari? I realize the speciale will still have a bit more with 600 hp, but not every one wants the hardcore stripped down version.
It seems there will be a year or two while the cali will be as powerful as the 458? Coz the 458 replacement is not exactly imminent.

 

I would beg to differ, I think a flat 6 sounds rather nice, especially if it's a GT3 spec engine.
Flatplane V8s are basically 2 4 cylinder engines joined on the same crank, in my opinion, not the best sounding engine configuration

There are rumors now that there will be no GT2 991, because it would not be sufficiently different or faster than a 991 TTS. A mid engined flat-8 design is apperently in the works to take up GT2's place in the Porsche hierarchy.
Speciale would be best compared to the GT3 or GT3 RS.

 

New Cali will have 560 hp. You cannot compare the 458 and Cali. Cali is a soft car compared to the 458. And the 458 got an update in '12-13 (can't remember exactly when). The cars produced after this update appear have a tendency to push out more power than indicated. We had a new 458 here one or two years ago that was pushing close to 600 hp from the factory. I have heard the same elsewhere.

It's not about how many hp's the car has got, it's about the overall performance. The 458 is a superiorly performing car to the California, for obvious reasons.

 

doubtful rumors, but we will see.

Spyshots: 2014 Porsche 911 GT2 and GT3 RS Spotted in San Francisco

 

Don't they now? Or am I getting confused with the Maserati and California, with the only difference being bent crank versus flat crank ...

So anyway isn't the engine in the 458 engine a hotted up California one?

I'm hoping the successor is a v6 turbo engine. Would be good with F1 having the same configuration, plus add an electric powered drive to the turbo and good bye lag! Just like F1.
Pete

 

what car?

 

it would be a new model entirely, a mid engined car to compete more directly with cars like F458 and 12C.

 

there was rumors about this car some time ago, you know for sure that this car will be build? it will have V8 from 918?

 

I know only of the same rumors you know... no V8 from 918, too expensive... a flat 8 based on the modular flat 6 block that is used in 991.

 

Approximately one year ago the Porsche CEO Matthias Müller said to the newspaper 'Handelsblatt': "An extremely powerful mid-engine sports car could close the gap between the 911 GT2 RS and the 918 Spyder". That's more or less all what we know about.

A 911 GT2 RS 991 seems to be safe.

 

We live in the golden age of supercars, with Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, and Porsche producing great cars and competing with each other. I hope it lasts.

 

Very well put. What should be amazing is the GT3 RS. I drove my 991 home last night, and I have to say at higher revs the car sounds very good, as good or better than my previous 997.

 

Thanks for the info Phil.

And I agree with Noblesse Oblige- this is indeed a golden age for these cars.

Keep em coming. I'd generally prefer a NA motor but I'm open to all solutions.

 

yes, we have many great cars nowadays, from hypercars like laFerrari to small sport cars like new Alfa 4C, only one thing bother me: emission standards that kills big great sounding engines like this 7.3 liter in Zonda

 

But Emission standards keep our environment in better shape than it would be otherwise.

 

Zonda with less than 150 units is not a great danger for environment,
I don't want to go into politics but I don't trust this carbon emission agenda

 

Agreed. Also don't want to start a political discussion, but the impact of all ever sold Ferraris is by far less than - let's say the F150's sold in the last year...

 

Typically dealers are the least in the know. I have gone into my dealer with info I have received on this forum and shared with them. The flip side is I really don't see a dealer making that statement if they didn't know something......

Time will tell ( or someone from the inside )

Rb

 

Disappointing

 

"I can give you this in writing".

This makes me disbelieve this as mere rumor.

 

you will be really disappointed if 458 replacement will be sounds as bad as new F1 cars
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9OYmVw2QjA]F1 2014 Jerez Testing and F1 2013 Sound Comparison F1 2013 vs F1 2014 sound - YouTube[/ame]

 

Sounds a lot like my chain saw.

 

If your chainsaw is not electric it will definitely sound better