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  1. miurasv

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    #12276 miurasv, Jan 26, 2014
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    Yes.:) Is 5036 missing the left footrest pedal in the footwell for when the clutch is not being used as on 4814 pictured below? The clutch and brake pedal assembly is placed further to the left on 5036?
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  2. joe sackey

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    Bear in mind that 5036 was built & completed as a LHD car, then, converted to RHD by the factory, post-production, as my notes say. They have some unique features. I'm not certain about the dead-pedal.
     
  3. miurasv

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    Is there proof that 5036 was converted to RHD by the factory? Also, did all SVs with a split sump have a Limited Slip Differential?
     
  4. joe sackey

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    Unfortunately, I can't confirm either question.
     
  5. Robert W

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    Ooh. Intriguing.

    The 7 UK RHD cars are well known: black, white, yellow, yellow, red, gorgeous light blue and the silver (I think) that became an orange LHD and I'm sure Joe posted on this thread when it was auctioned in the US reasonably recently.

    I know of another white and another blue (but not light blue), which makes nine.

    5036 I thought was one of two supplied new in RHD to Australia in addition to the nine above. How early in its life was it converted from LHD to RHD?

    5002 I thought is also a red SV and lives in Australia, but was converted from LHD to RHD? 4972 is a well-documented red SV converted from LHD to RHD living in the UK.

    I think also there was a green RHD car, resprayed gold, then destroyed.

    Question: there were 7 UK original factory RHD Miura SVs (of which 6 still exist), but how many worldwide original factory RHD Miura SVs were there? I thought there were 7 + 2 + 5036 + green-gold cars = 11 (of which 9 still exist in RHD), but if 5036 can't be counted, are there only 10 (of which 8 exist)?

    Need to stop thinking about this so much. :)
     
  6. miurasv

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    #12281 miurasv, Jan 26, 2014
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    The red RHD SV, 4812, was originally lime green, and has/is been/being restored in its original colour. I think it's stated in this thread that 5002 and 5036 were for sale at an Italian Lamborghini dealership as new cars when they were purchased and converted to RHD and went to Australia.

    Here's what I wrote in post 9226:

    "Factory Original RHD P400SV = 4830, 4812, 4814, 4816, 4818, 4828, 4820, 4822 and 4826.

    For years it was published in the press that there were '7 RHD SVs', '7 UK RHD SVs', '7 RHD SVs in the UK' and sometimes worded as '7 RHD SVs made' which was incorrect. 7 is still the figure people use as advertised incorrectly for the Classic Driver ad for 5036 which isn't even one of the 7??? if you get my meaning. Clearly there were 9 original factory RHD SVs, c/n numbers above, but could the 7 figure have come about because 4826 went to South Africa as of all the pics I've seen of it it never had a UK plate with very little info on it and we know that 4822 did go to South Africa? If you count 5002 and 5036 (converted from LHD to RHD by the factory early on as stated previously by JS) then there were 11 factory RHD cars which are now 10 because 4820 is now LHD."
     
  7. SAB

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    The red Miura with the big black stripe appears to have a rooflight. That footage is in great condition considering how old it is.
     
  8. joe sackey

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    #12283 joe sackey, Jan 26, 2014
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    Steven, 4820 was recently at the Concours Elegance in Athens, Greece: Historic Automotive Promotion

    Perhaps one day it will be a RHD SV again.
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  9. Jasperlambo

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    my opinion is that it is a quite recent feature using some old pictures...
     
  10. SAB

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    Could be, but surely the original footage couldn't have been cleaned up that much to make it look that good. I assume the original footage must have been the highest quality available for that period.
     
  11. ilconservatore

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    From the photo the material reminds me of a type of packing that's used on water pumps and valves. Its a flexible, woven strand that comes preformed as a washer, or just straight lengths off a roll. Can be made of synthetics, metal, graphite, wire mesh, etc. Often referred to as pump packing or gland packing.

    "John Crane" was a brand name that used to be popular IIRC. Another company calls their product BJ Seal...google at your own risk ;)
     
  12. Robert W

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    Hi

    Wow - thank you for this and the pointers: I can see the posts re 5002 and 5036 now, and yes, I've seen the posts that say that 4812 is going from red back to lime green at cc.

    4822 was in South Africa for 29 years, but has now left and is being restored by one of those owners who likes to keep himself to himself. 4826 I also suspect is buried in South Africa somewhere.

    What about 4858? I thought it was Rhd from new and for all its life? Does that make a 12th original RHD?

    Thank you for the answer to my question: there were 9 RHD Miura SVs, of which 8 are now RHD.

    Robert
     
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    #12290 joe sackey, Jan 28, 2014
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    That's actually 4904, entered @ Pebble Beach by Andrej F, Swiss/Vaude-registered VD.21893
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    Er.... you said it wasn't RHD, then the first link takes me to something that says it was RHD. I heard it was green then gold then destroyed ......and all along RHD.
     
  17. miurasv

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    You're right. I must be blind. :) The pic is of a LHD car.
     
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    ....and if it is the right car, it would appear it was red at some point as well! It's tricky verifying which car is which - anyone out there have a picture of Miura SV 4858 by any chance?
     
  20. spadge1976

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    I love the wing mirrors on this example - so much more complimentary than some of the other examples I have seen. Were customers able to order different styles of wing mirror from the factory when the cars were originally ordered?
     
  21. joe sackey

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    Sorry, I don't know his one.
     
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    #12297 joe sackey, Jan 28, 2014
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    These are Vitaloni Sebring units which the factory installed if you asked for mirrors. Widely used in the period as after-market units on both race & road cars. They were still affixed to our Factory publicity & USA prototype SV (4884) also.
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  23. spadge1976

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    Interesting, thank you.
     
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    #12299 raymondQV, Jan 28, 2014
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    Ah, Andrej enlarged his collection.

    BTW: did we have pictures of #4916 and #5070 in this thread?
     
  25. joe sackey

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    I don't think I have ever seen pics of either car.

    4916 was the 655th car built, fitted with engine number 30649 and delivered on the 12th of August 1971 to Lamborghini concessionaire Karl Foitek for his client Stembord (who has 2 Miura SV's in the same red/blue livery!)

    5070 was the 740th car built, fitted with engine number 30731 and delivered on the 31st of May 1972 to Lamborghini concessionaire Gentlemen's Car.

    Are these in Switzerland today?
     

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