Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

This is not the reason. You should not simply compare 0 to 100 km/h and 0 to 300 to understand. 918 is just faster on the 0 to 100 and probably only up to 30 or 50 km / h. 0 to 200: 918 to 7.2 and P1 - 6.8. So 100 to 200 918 needs 4.6 sec and the P1 just 4 sec. The difference is substantial and confirms up to 300. The engine which disconnects is only amplifying the difference from 270 kph. Again, I think you're a bit of bad faith when you speak about P1.

 

Kanu you really , really , really need to read my posts . I write one thing and you are so blinded by something inexplicable to me you seem to read something completely different and if I'm honest with you it's now grating having to say something 10 times because you couldn't be bothered to read it properly the first time .
No one here has bad faith you are just a little bit paranoid I think . But remember just because you think they are out to get you , it doesn't mean they aren't , lol

 

I assure you I'm not parano, I give my opinion on the reality of acceleration figures. that's all. A question was asked and You answer it only half, not exactly. This is my opinion. Apart that, you are passionate like me and I respect you for that.

 

thanks for the lecture

but yes, i want more power at 165mph and i find that very disconcerting. i regularly exceed that speed, your problem if you cant, lol, and i want more not less power as i do. thats why racetracks are pretty silly. usually way too short and too much emphasis on stopping.
and i dont care about lap times!! im not buying a 900HP super car to drive it around only in circles on circuits

 

918 sounds very complex and i dont see how that cant but detract from the driving experience. coupling/decoupling, several motors, aws, etc. car worries me.
in fact all 3 of these do in terms of complexity, battery, but i do hope to drive them all when they arrive. have deliveries begun on 918 does anyone know?

and i cant get over the fact that it slows down at 165mph???very, very strange

 

I swear to god mac fans are a cult , I said it on ml , it's a cult lol.

 

You live in the States don't you?
You don't regularly exceed 165 mph here. That's bs. Sorry.

Maybe an occasional run into it on some obscure night highway.

To say it slows down I think is incorrect. Doesn't it just lose some of the HP.

Assuming most don't go much last that speed Porsche probably figures it's unnecessary

 

dont worry about how fast i do or dont drive just talk to me about a supercar that has less HP the faster it goes....is this what we would call good engineering?

 

and by the way, you ever been to Montana? or Utah?
they are large, land-locked areas of vast expanse and limitless possibility, especially in the proper automobile..... tyro.

 

Now someone is claiming that they regularly exceed 165mph so that they can criticise Porsche?

Oh dear. Lol.

 

Yeah... You still don't regularly exceed that speed in the US.

 

The electric motor is limited to 16 000 rpm in order to preserve energy.
That is why 918's electric power is pretty much always at disposal under that 265km/h speed , unlike in the P1

 

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LOL

You read my mind mate. LOL

 

It's very good engineering for the reasons Wtdoom posted. We used the same engineering to beat every McLaren we ever raced at The Ring in Real Races. KERS boost is best used in short bursts to provide torque until the turbo (918/P1) or petrol motor (La Ferrari) can make full torque as the car comes out of the turns. It's needed for about 4 seconds per turn. On a race track the only totally "free" energy is recaptured kinetic energy that would otherwise be lost through braking.

New anti lag turbo systems really make the weight of the entire hybrid component of 918/P1/La Ferrari questionable and that's why our new car won't use them. IMO 918/P1/La Ferrari and our new car would/will all be a lot faster without their hybrid systems at a lower weight and with turbo anti lag systems. Hybrid is PC Correct but it's complexity and weight isn't worth it IMO.

 

so again, maybe it works well on a racetrack but seems like it may be stange on the road

 

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here are two mclaren fans talking about the p13 launch at Geneva
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You are right , very strange . All the roads I have ever been on have been completely empty , dead straight and devoid of speed limits and law enforcement . I have never driven under 300kph , even when I take the lizards to the vet .
This corner of which they speak is a lie .

 

918's Proven Ring Time of 6:57 Proves it does just as P1's not proven Ring Time does not prove that P1 can run the Ring any faster than BTG's 7:04 P1 Ring time.

 

here we go again, boys and their toys, we will see if p1 ever gets a published time but i have absolutley no doubt it can go well under 7minutes.
and if it cant at least it can rely on those good looks to get it sold out....

 

me too and that way me and my f-car can hit 300kph all day long even when i take the kids to school...

 

375 are sold out as per McLaren. Less than the 500 they told me they hoped to sell but still very impressive. As an aside Road and Track loves their go in P1.

 

jim do you know what the real msrp on the P1

 

I live in the NW. Have a home in southern Idaho. I travel roads like you are talking about a lot.

Going fast in a straightline is a pointless maneuver for the talentless drivers of the world.

Even in the middle of nowhere you don't drive above 165 regularly. You are blowing smoke in a forest fire. It's bs.

It really seems you just want to hate the 918 for whatever reason you come up with next.

Total snooze fest for me. Why anyone cares about straightline speed in a car baffles me.


Any car can go fast straight. Driving is a craft that is only tested in corners. The rest is for High School kids and those who can't drive when talent is needed.