R8 V10 vs F430, prices are level! Now what?

you cant compare Ferrari with audi

 

You can compare anything it's whether they are comparable or not.

There may be no comparison between Ferrari and Audi but you certainly can compare their cars. Ferraris aren't made out of unicorn horns and pixi dust you know.

 

Finally...and intelligent and unbiased comparison. Thank you!

 

Revised: There is no comparison between Ferrari and audi

 

If some dealer offers me an even trade of a R8 V10 for my 360CS, I'd do it in a heart beat. I'd even throw in a full tank of gas.
yeah... I think the cars are comparable.

 

Agreed. Nothing wrong with the Audi...great car. Handle well, sound great and lots of performance...hard to knock it. True car people appreciate cars, not necessarily the marque on them.

 

Well, I wouldn't trade a CS for a V10R8 but then I see the CS as a collector. But a 430 vs R8?? R8 all day. 430 has always struck me as contrived.

 

I believe Tony Stark would choose the R8 V10. Back to the original thread: I was in this same position 12 months ago. F430 coupe Manual vs. R8 V10 coupe manual. The money for single owner, low mileage, well sorted cars was about the same. I joined this forum and the R8Talk forum to get some true owner's opinions. My original plan was the Ferrari, but I chose the R8 V10 (for now). There is no right answer. Each person has to make their own mind re which to choose. Of course .... if you ask on this forum .... Ferrari all the way. The OP should ask himself what is important? For myself .... I wanted a dealer CPO car with plenty of warranty. I do not have time for "issues". I only drive the car on weekends. Even after 2-4 weeks of sitting .... I expect the car to start and drive with no drama. I would be curious how many F430 owners have some aftermarket warranty. Does the Ferrari have more soul? Absolutely. Ferrari has a heritage of racing. Audi is building on that racing legacy. My plan was to eventually trade up to the 458 Italia, but it will be hard to give up the manual.

 

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4ffWGB4rtg]Audi R8 V10 vs Ferrari F430 Scuderia - YouTube[/ame]

 

If only the Audi had a decently designed Cabin ...

 

Funny how dreams change as you get hit in the face with reality.

As a kid, I dreamed of owning a Ferrari. I have now owned 3, and put a LOT of miles on all three. Now I am looking to buy another sports car, this time I plan to do it right, tick all the boxes, and just figure the financial part out. I am limited in that I cannot truly go "super car" (F40, F50, CGT...).

Where I get snagged is when I get to the part about driving it all the time. I want something I can drive occasionally to work, anytime to dinner, on a long trip, etc. I can't do that with a Ferrari. I just can't. Doesn't matter if it's a 50k 328 or a 500k F12, the real world doesn't know the difference, and in this economy in my town, it's just not something I can do.

So: Mid-engine? check. MANUAL? check. Exotic motor noise? check. Timeless looks? check. Fantastic handling? check. Convertible... that goes up while driving and has a rear window that drops for added sound... check. Can drive to work or mall or grocery store or hotel or parkway or highway in rain or snow? check.

R8 V10 Manual Convertible. Thanks.

 

I think it's the pixie dust that causes the sticky goo on Ferrari plastics.

 

Well sure, it makes too much sense....that's why you cant do a comparison. I think Tony Stark would have the Audi too AND a Pagani !

 

I know this isn't in response to OP but reponding to your statement. I wouldn't trade my CS for a R8V10. I find them (R8) ok looking but not beautiful and they are not that rare where I live, I can appreciate what they are but that's not what I want in a dedicated sports car.

I test drove an R8V8 and was surprised at how unexcited I was, granted it was an older model and not a V10.

I might, however, consider selling my 996 gt3 for the Balboni Lambo.

The CS I find exciting to drive anytime. I reminds me more of my Ducati's. I take it out for the sheer pleasure of the ride, I mean drive. I realize that your situation is different and that the R8V10 may fit your needs better than the CS but I couldn't part with it for the Audi, on the other hand a 16M would be a temptation.

 

you're probably just looking at the $$$ difference which is just supply/demand.

The cars are worlds apart

 

reliability is irrevalent

 

Tony Stark is a CARTOON and the car was an ENDORSEMENT

 

Someone who recognises sense, the R8 was a well placed advertisement, good PR from Audi.

A serious chunk of motoring journalists don't like the R8 because of its lack of soul, the R8 is a sports car, a Ferrari is a supercar. Can you do 10k miles a year on a Ferrari, well yes, but chances are you are going to pay a high price for it, whereas doing 10k miles a year on an R8, a different story.

To put it in perspective, an R8 V8 new costs about the same new as a top 5/7 series, or E/S class. A R8 V10 new is similar to an M6 or SL-AMG, sports car Porsche money. The cheapest new Ferrari is twice the new price of a R8 V8.

A supercar is meant to be an impractical car built for one purpose, to go fast. A Ferrari has been design from stage one to do that. The R8 is built as a two seater everyday car.

It was quite an achievement to release the R8 V8 in 2007 that was almost as fast as a Ferrari designed 10 earlier, sarcasm implied. Then have to bolt in a lambo V10 because it was a slow against the 2006 F430.

So the R8 V10 has a lambo engine, gearbox and rear suspension, hmm, that's engineering at its best, with a good piece of plastic stuck down each side.

Out of the choices, for my money at that price if I wanted a two seater sports car, the SL-AMG would get my vote, but at that money you can get a four/five seater just as fast. The E-AMG is fantastic, plus the engine is really tuneable.

Neil

 

You can easily compare Ferrari with Audi (just like you can compare it with Ford, or Chevy). Ferrari makes an incredibly addictive car, with a driving experience and visual presence that is second to none, consistently in virtually every test. But tests and theoretical "what-ifs" do not necessarily translate to the real world. The local dealer, service, local weather, these are real world considerations.

I just parked my friends 2005 S4 with 95,000 miles in my garage last night for me to work on it. The interior is absolutely immaculate. The drivers seat has about 20% of the wear my 40k mile 355 showed. No sticky anything, perfect dash. You are right: there is no comparison between Ferrari and Audi....

It's really not apples to apples when you compare a CS to an R8, or a scud, as in the above video. Both of those cars offer even more "Ferrari-ness". But a standard 430 and an R8 are going to be very close.

Reliability is irrelevant right up until the point that you have problems with your car.

So if Ferrari had placed a 458 in the movie, what then? And I think the comments here, from someone who has looked closely at both cars, is worth reading and not simply dismissing out of hand.

If I had the coin and didn't care what anyone thought, I'd have a 458 spider (and that F-50, thank you very much). But I can order an R8 spider with everything and custom paint for under 180k, or half the cost of a 458 spider. Is the 458 better? For certain. Is it TWICE as good? Hmmm....

 

three things
1. the supply of CS is limited yet the price is lower. that should say something about the R8 V10.
2. if the CS is a "better" car, then the market should reflect it.
3. I own the CS yet I am not such a brand snob as not to recognize that some other brand(s) also make pretty awesome cars: Porsche, Audi, Lambo, Pagani, etc. In many cases, these cars are better than Ferrari

 

I have a CS...would not trade it for, well, anything.

That said, I want an R8 V10 manual shift spider.

The point being the cars don't fill the same role in my garage. The R8 is more of a GT (at least in comparison to the raw CS), so it would fill the GT spider slot in my space-limited garage (it would replace my much-loved Maserati gransport spider).

All good cars...we are blessed to have these choices.

(Isn't that last sentence all that need be said in these types of threads?)

 

Yes, yes it is. I love the CS so much it is painful.

 

really? Not even say... Enzo or F1?
how about one of these?


other than that, yes, we are quite blessed to own cars most people can only dream about
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Sorry, I cannot call any of the mass produced Ferraris "Supercars", they may be exotics, but they are not Supercars. 288 GTOs, F40s, F50s, Enzos and La Ferraris are Supercars, as are Paganis, Bugattis, McLaren F1s and P1s and Porsche Carrera GTs and 918s. The mass produced Ferraris, Lamborghinis and Audi R8s are all exotics and awesome cars, they are just not "Supercars".

 

Agreed, esp. When you consider they actually made more F430s than M5s.

I have to say I'm a little disappointed at some of the snootiness on here about Ferrari. It's a car. Believe it or not there are other manufacturers that make GREAT cars as well. If you are a true car enthusiast and not some snob then you'll appreciate all cars for their heritage and uniqueness. I love talking about, looking at and driving all cars regardless of their marque.