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This is the new California: The California T.

Discussion in 'California(Portofino)/Roma(Amalfi)' started by DriveAfterDark, Feb 12, 2014.

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  1. chbit63

    chbit63 Karting

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    Confirmed: 8.000 rpm red line
     
  2. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

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    Yes, and I still can't get over the F12's mildly put insane 740hp output.
     
  3. geertf60

    geertf60 Karting

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  4. chbit63

    chbit63 Karting

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  5. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    360 has an 8,500 redline.
    458 has a 9,000 redline. life does not get much better than 9k in a 458. ;)
     
  6. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Did they get that "turbo efficiency guage" from the Nissan product planning department and beat them to the punch. I must be an old timer :-(

    That thing is hideous...I wonder if it is an option that can be avoided?
     
  7. deppi0

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    #207 deppi0, Feb 13, 2014
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    Brake lights are still separate from main lights as you can see in this pic from the video.
    The seats seem amazing. I wonder if those are standard or sport.

    Red line starts at 8k which means limiter at at least 8.5k I think...pretty good IMO
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  8. chbit63

    chbit63 Karting

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    You can change it to TIME, TEMP, and Engine Eff.
     
  9. MisterMaranello

    MisterMaranello F1 Rookie

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    The turbo gauge is probably my favorite feature on the car in addition to the LaF style seats. :)
     
  10. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Thanks for sharing these pics...I too was looking forward to the torque chart...it is surprisingly "steep" (relatively) for a turbo motor. Some of the latest turbo motors from brands that have been at it for years and in quantity (namely BMW) have essentially flat torque from 1700-5700 rpm. This will be interesting to see the differences in response and sound, etc between this Ferrari turbo and the makes that have been at it a while (and "no", I don't count learnings from decades ago like 288 and F40 when discussing these modern turbos, they are very, very different technologies)
     
  11. MisterMaranello

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    The reflector glass extending from the brake lights curves around the rear of the car. It looks miles better than those cheap looking halogen lights on the outgoing Cali. A nice design feature, the devil is in the details.
     
  12. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    That is a "bit" better, but it sure sticks out in its metal coloring...hopefully one can at least spec CF like the nearby vents...
     
  13. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Those wheels are actually growing on me!
     
  14. MisterMaranello

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    Two-tone paint is not standard. I believe it's modis icode is BIC2.
     
  15. chbit63

    chbit63 Karting

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    The one in the photo are not in CF...
     
  16. MisterMaranello

    MisterMaranello F1 Rookie

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    Did anyone who was in Modena manage to get any VIN numbers on either of the cars exhibited?
     
  17. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You are referring to the turbo guage, right? If so, I know that...that was my point...it would perhaps look less silly in CF trim.
     
  18. chbit63

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    #218 chbit63, Feb 13, 2014
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    You are right.
     
  19. 4th_gear

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    #219 4th_gear, Feb 13, 2014
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    Red-line RPM is only useful for bragging especially for a car that is not intended for tracking, much more important is how much torque the car develops at lower RPM. In this regard, it's spectacular, ~530 Nm at 2,500 RPM in 3rd gear; ~440 Nm at 1,500 RPM in 3rd. The car will be amazing to drive around in any manner.

    To put it in perspective, the original California only develops 325 Nm at 2,500 RPM and only 176 Nm at 1750 RPM. The "old car" needs to be rev'd to about 2,000 RPM to get it into an aggressive mode.

    BTW, I notice there are separate torque curves, for different gears, probably because of different levels of turbo boost relative to vehicle speed. I use 3rd gear for reference as it really is the gear most likely to be useable on public roads. All the other gears will lose you your license unless you're on a track or private road. :D

    Amazing performance. The car may not look radical compared to the outgoing one but the engine performance is definitely radical and is a clear indication of what's to come with the other cars in the Ferrari line-up.

    Another thing. That ridiculously huge jump in torque when the car, already running at a good clip, goes from 6th to 7th gear will probably make it feel like all hell's just broken loose. Will be interesting to see the test drivers' reactions.
     
  20. 612scag

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    I have a preorder in. Per my dealer, first allocations could be coming as soon as this month.
     
  21. Royalpar1

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    The month of February ? what does that mean as first allocations ?
     
  22. Noblesse Oblige

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    I will wager it is a common boost gauge (i.e., vacuum gauge) but calibrated in "percent" rather than PSI.

    Anyone want to wager that it is an option for $1500?

    By the way the photo shows off the new California very nicely, esp. the rear.
     
  23. mr.modena

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  24. Royalpar1

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    Thank you !
     
  25. bobbyd

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    Well certainly a lot of hoopla here for what is, essentially, a warmed over model. The torque curve is the biggest difference; visually it's moderately improved (IMO) but still not a beauty.

    I can't even believe someone would trade an F12 on this - talk about having to have the latest and greatest no matter what.....sheesh!

    For sure it will propogate ongoing sales volume, though, and this is the name of the game for Ferrari.

    Best.
     

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