Miura, the original supercar

Maybe normal for the factory but didn't the indicator lenses need to be coloured in the UK in 1972?

 

Don't think so, afaik UK law has always been about the colour of the light emitted not the lens colour

*Edit*
Yeah thought so, current law states as below

"Direction indicators and hazard warning lamps are not required to be fitted to vehicles used only during the hours of daylight, which are fitted with neither front nor rear position lamps, etc. (See 1.1.A) Nor are they required on vehicles first used before 1 January 1936. However, if they are fitted, they must be tested.

Vehicles first used before 1 September 1965 may have direction indicators incorporated with stop lamps, or combined with side or rear lamps, in which case front indicators may be white and rear indicators red.

Vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must be fitted with one side repeater indicator on each side. Instead of a separate lamp, the side repeater might be part of the front direction indicator if it includes a wraparound lens."

With a note stating
"d. that every direction indicator emits amber light (except vehicles first used before 1 September 1965)"


Info comes from. http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_140.htm

 

The thickness of the steel did become thicker as the series continued. But, the most important item is that in the SV series, the entire front foot well areas , both left and right are entirely redesigned, compared to S or P400 models, yielding much more strength in the chassis, and other 'beefed up[" areas.
Gary Bobileff

 

Not sure which of Rod Stewart's Miuras this one is but there's a brief clip of it at 4.45. I may be wrong but it looks like an SV.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjAz7lkl7g]Rod Stewart - Documentary of 1976 (part 3) HQ - YouTube[/ame]

 

Thanks, SAB. You're right I think. Probably SV 4818. The clip I saw also had his Marcos in it. It was white, LHD, a P400 and may have been on a G plate.

 

Thank you, Gary. I don't think even the factory conversions in period can be full SV spec as the complete chassis would have to be changed. Also the theory that an old Miura would go in to the factory and a complete new SV would come out with the old chassis number just doesn't add up as what did they do with the complete old Miura P400 or P400S going in? They wouldn't have destroyed it unless it was accident damaged and a write off. It would have been much easier and cheaper to just part exchange the older/earler Miura for an SV.

 

There's plenty of options

Renumber and sell as a factory guaranteed s/h miura
Strip it for parts for servicing/repairs of other earlier cars
Turn it into a factory muletto
etc etc

 

Or could it have been modified to the latest spec?

Any thoughts on that Gary ?

 

I can not say with authority, as I never worked there in that era, but my suspicions are that the cosmetics would be added to mimic a SV, and that seemed to satisfy the customer that they were getting an SV. This is strictly an opinion, not based upon fact.
Gary Bobileff

 

hopefully you will get one of these cars in soon and can see just what if anything was done under the skin

 

Excuse my ignorance here but if it was purely cosmetic alterations then how did they get the SV wider track with the rear wheels?

 

Miuras weren't racing cars so most of them would have been insured against accident damage surely? No, I just can't see that crashed cars, that would not have a great value other than for the undamaged value of the drivetrain, would go in to the factory and a new SV would come out with the old chassis number. There would always be a question mark over a dual identity SV and I would value one at a lot less than a P400.

 

If its one of the "proper ones" ie with an SV build number then I don't see it as too much of a problem.
Surely its the mainly cosmetic cars where the issue of value must be seriously affected ?

 

What build numbers are you referring to? The chassis numbers don't indicate the specification of any Miura.

 

Wow. Interesting... I am assuming tax reasons?

 

I was wondering the same thing about taxes .
Was also wondering if Lamborghini didn't want cars showing a history of being crashed. Was that ever discussed? If a Ser# was logged as upgraded and not totaled the impression of a poor handling car wouldn't be spread by bad publicity.

 

Steve as a long term reader and contributor to this thread (and given your username) thats surely not a genuine question ???

My understanding of how it worked was that the cars have a chassis number obviously, but also an internal production number (poss originating from Bertone ???) which is stamped or written on the back or underside of various parts and panels. As such a "remanufactured" car with a proper SV production number would pretty much have to be a whole new car.

 

I do not know how it worked being honest. I'm not saying they're not there but I am not aware of internal production numbers being stamped on the cars like the numero interno of the engine number stamped on the engine of a Ferrari as well as the chassis/engine number. I thought the chassis numbers may have been stamped on the bodies somewhere and the engine number on the engine obviously. There is a picture on page 251 of Joe's The Lamborghini Miura Bible where there is a picture of 2 chassis plates on SV #5106. The first says P400XN858. Does the XN858 bit mean SV? The second plate says the TYP = P 400 SV. However, I assumed, maybe wrongly, that most Miuras do not have this second plate stating the type of Miura it is. I'm sure Joe can clarify.