The Michael Schumacher Career/Injury/Recovery Thread

I think you could be right, James Allen has a good reputation within F1 journalism, and he seems very sure about the information he is "forwarding" in the article. Im thinking he was told Schumi's current situation by Todt privately, but is using this Italian journalist as his source ( as he has been given the same information).

 

They may well not be reporting these latest changes because they are not reactions to anything specific, but are merely subconscious spasms.

If it's true that he is having these spasms then it is a good sign as it indicates that, even if it's only subconsciously, there is some nerve activity taking place.

I suspect though that both Corinna and Sabine are viewing the current situation as not being a major, significant improvement worthy of reporting and getting peoples hopes up.

Should there be a major, significant improvement though then I'm sure they'll post it up straight away.

FORZA SCHUEY! - FORZA CORINNA!

 

I hear you, but I dunno man!.... The reports were that he's off the ventilator! If true, I believe that's a pretty darn major step!

Godspeed Michael
Ian

 

Gotcha. No problem!

Anyone wants to believe in miracles, it's all good!.... We all want the same, no matter how we want/believe/wish for it.

Godspeed Michael
Ian

 

I don't think it is helpful to offer incorrect medical information --- your above conclusion is absolutely false.

As another "activity" taking place that also causes such physical signs --- spasm / twitch / involuntary movement --- is a seizure, specifically repeated seizures.

I am not saying this is what is going on in this specific case (of course, none of us know at this point) ---- but in general terms, it is always a distinct possibility for someone in this condition. And, it cannot be simply disregarded and assumed not to be happening in favor of something better.

Again, no reference at all intended directly to MS condition ---- but, in general, it is not necessarily a "good sign" that an unconscious (or particularly a comatose) patient is having what may appear to be "spasms". This is not the same thing as someone who is "twitching" in their sleep or while their body is relaxed which is an entirely different, and normal, situation.

 

CNN tonight, 3/7 14, two different reports.

1) Comment from Schumacher management, he is coming out of his induced coma. That was it.

2) Sources "close to the family", the situation is bleak. That speaks volumes.

I hate to be negative, but after all of these weeks of induced coma, I have no idea what #1 means. Number 2 is sadly the most logical comment. One of these times that you just hate to be honest.

MS is one of the few special people in the universe. No matter what, I will never forget those few micro minutes in the elevator at the hotel in Indianapolis, just MS and myself.

 

We've been told for weeks that the only believable 'comments' will come from his management!

If Sabine said that, I think it's a huge positive! I'd *really* love for her to also confirm that he's breathing alone! But surely anything is good right now, no?

Godspeed Michael
Ian

 

Those are not her words, rather a reinterpretation of what she did say which was actually:

I think you should be less reliant on the rumor mill as it may not be doing your emotions on this situation any favors, regardless of whether their reports are positive or negative.

>8^)
ER

 

There's still some ding dong going around. Some say he's ok and he's breathing on his own, etc, and some say the situation is bleak.

I still think he can pull out of this.

 

I think he can as well, not the Michael he used to be but he will still be same Michael in my eyes. I actually believe the report that first came out where it said he was breathing on his own, there was quite a bit of information in that Article and I really can't see that reporter saying those things if it wasn't true, I am guessing someone has leaked this information. My opinion anyway

 

You guys should look beyond breathing on his own. There are a number of other thing that are important--the article just mentions one: if he can't swallow his saliva, he risks aspirating (breathing) it into his lungs, which can cause infections. This is just one of a number of things.

 

If his kidneys shut down, that's pretty much the ball game.

Hang in there, Schumi.

 

We're being told 2 things from 2 differenent ''sources'': One is saying that they've been told he needs a miracle, while the other is reporting ''he's breathing on his own''.

2 hugely contradicting updates.

In other words, please everyone, ignore what the tabloids are saying, all of it is almost certainly horse manure trying to sell their ''newspaper''.

 

Claims Michael Schumacher is breathing independently played down by his management | euronews,

 

Clearly spontaneous breathing indicates he is not BRAIN DEAD, one of the tests used to test brain death. That's about it guys - I think that is what Drive550PFB is indicating. We still hope he recovers some useful function but only time will tell and the stats tells us that the longer this goes on the outcome is worse.

 

And of course, Schuey's medical team are such amateurs that they wouldn't bother to monitor Schuey to see if any physical twitching is a seizure or not would they?

And if it were due to a seizure, they'd obviously ignore it and simply let him have multiple seizures one after the other because, well....what does it matter anyway!

The fact that you have an alternative conclusion as to what might cause uncontrolled twitching does not automatically make the suggestion that I posted "absolutely false".

(Or are you suggesting that it is completely impossible for any twitching to be due to uncontrolled nerve operation?)


FORZA SCHUEY! - FORZA CORINNA!

 

I am suggesting that in the case with traumatic brain injury ---- seizures are (more) likely.

And, that...... well..... I'll just let the upcoming press release speak for itself.

Often, seizures from injury are uncontrollable (especially in the near term) ---- one of the reasons comas are induced in the first place. It's not a matter of ignoring it and allowing it to happen.

Of course they would. But, they did not make the claim that "it is a good sign" ---- you did.

And, BTW.....did you not take the time to read the rest of what I posted ?

I have absolutely no ability how to be any more objective and non specific than that ---- yet it still is interpreted by you as some sort of negative attack against Schumacher that you feel the need to defend ?? Let's just put each other on our ignore lists, then shall we.....

 

Phill, there is no one on this thread who is not hoping, wishing for, indeed praying for, Michael's recovery, the more complete the better. But there is no call for sarcasm when you appear not to understand the medical situation, and someone who does appear to be familiar with it replies.

Hope and pray as we all do, but picking fights over language does Michael no good, nor does it make any of us here feel better.

 

Thank you, Seth.

 

The creep factor of this thread is off the charts. Like so many others, I keep coming back to look for updates and I just get creeped out. Its like certain people are using this thread to prove/declare their love of MS..and out do others. And that's ok I guess; but they are doing it by attacking others that are simply giving realistic and sometimes EDUCATED, MATURE opinions on the matter. I even seen rants filled with vulgarity. If you can't even deal with reading post that even suggests an unfavorable outcome, how could you possibly deal with reality if he doesn't recover?

For the record, in 2004, my wife and I had the opportunity to go to Monaco and we sat next to MS's table at dinner. Via the maître d', I offered to buy his dinner. MS declined but said he'd like a bottle of wine. We still have the receipt. Afterwards, he approached us in the atrium/bar and thanked us. He even let us get our pictures with him. We chatted for a bit and he was very kind. I was already an enormous fan and meeting him was something I only dreamed would ever come true. And after meeting him in person, I can say his character is as impressive as his driving ability. Pure class.

 

Could you post the picture of you and Michael?

 

I dont really feel like having my picture on the internet. Im so good looking, I dont need the fan base! LOL!!! kidding...kidding. Just too private to do such a thing here. I thought about blanking my face out, but that would be even more cowardly.

 

The impulse and momentum factor of hope to derision can be used to set a watch with here. Mods provide an occasional hit on the stop button, reset and start it again.

 

In 1989 I had a crash at Laguna Seca that allowed me to have a unique perspective of Michael's condition.
The doctors told my wife I was going to die.
Then when that did not happen they put me in drug induced coma that paralyzed me.
My wife repeated what happened to me and that I was paralyzed because of the drug.
I was lucky after 10 days I came to. Let me restate that the brain woke up the person I was, was not there, then, even now.
I was 44 at the time and in good shape going in, not as good as shape Michael.

I am not comparing myself to Michael, just comparing the conditions and the environment.
Doctors give their worst case assessment of the prevailing conditions.
Bad news sells papers.

All we can do is think positive, pray, my wife had every religion, including Scientology (Keith Code was responsible for that).
PS
We have been MS fans from when he drove for Jordan

 

Ya this has turned out to be a very strange place indeed. I just hope they all take their medications or get some help.