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Malaysia Airlines loses contact with B777-200 / MH370 enroute from KUL to PEK

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  1. 2NA

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    Speculation is that it might be hijacked , it was hit by a missle and maybe a bomb was detonated .

    Sad no matter what :(
     
  3. donv

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    It does, and I believe they have been detected already.

     
  4. Remy Zero

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    Thanks Chas.

    Last update there's traces of fuel, possibly jet fuel, somewhere in Vietnam waters.

    I really find it's weird how there's no debris at this point. This is not a small object we're looking for.
     
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    Vietnamese Navy has spotted TWO oil slicks at the point of lost data.
     
  8. garybobileff

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    Remember, that all the data that Flightaware or others are received via the Mode S. So, in theory, if there was a power termination from an explosion or similar, it would only show the disappearance of the place from tracking, yet, it's feasible depending on what type of damage was done to the hull, that they were able to continue flying for a period of time before it's ultimate doom, and had a failure to communicate. Just a thought. That still doesn't explain the ELT with it's own power source, unless there was ultimate and complete destruction in the air.
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  9. docmirror

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    No mayday troubles me greatly. Airliners in cruise in a busy comm corridor don't just go off the reservation instantly unless something catastrophic on board happened.

    RIP to all involved. This is tragic, but I think what's going to be more tragic yet will be the response by civil 'authorities' should they find foul play. Getting to an airliner is soon going to be a no-bags, cavity search process.
     
  10. FarmerDave

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    Does oil or fuel float to the top of the water?
     
  11. thecarreaper

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    yes. And so does the red hydraulic fluid which may be 5606 in a 777. We use Skydrol LD-4 in our Biz jets. Nasty stuff, and it creates a large sheen on water with just a few drops. The ELT's in the aircraft i have had contact with have a red guarded manual switch on the glare shield or dash, so one could turn it on as opposed to waiting for water or impact to set it off.

    very sad incident.
     
  12. Tcar

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    Would have to be a catastophic event...

    Coupled with the stolen passports...


    Is there and ELT signal? Couldn't find a mention of one...
     
  13. Remy Zero

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    Now, whatever happened must be too swift for even the pilots to place a distress call.

    Rumours are circulating here, that the plane had indeed crashed about 5.30 am, Malaysian timing.
     
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    take off - 12.40 am
    contact lost - 2.40 am

    what would account for the missing 3 hours?
     
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  16. Peloton25

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    Contact to the plane was lost much sooner into the flight than the two hour mark that was originally mentioned. Refer to the comments and links I supplied in the Silver forum here:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/142970202-post81.html

    >8^)
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  17. dmaxx3500

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    am i missing something?,this plane disappears and 24hrs later its just missing?when it went missing/it crashed
     
  18. Remy Zero

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    Thats what we're all trying to figure out. At that altitude, i think it takes 5-10 mins for the plane to come crashing into land/sea. Why wasn't there a distress call? Was the plan torn into pieces, or exploded, that gave the pilots no time to place a distress call?
     
  19. Peloton25

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    No distress call was ever placed in the disappearance of AirFrance flight 477 either.

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  20. Remy Zero

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    Yeap read about that. I think the pilot read the wrong readings and hence the crash..
     
  21. Gatorrari

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    I think the difference was that Air France was out of range of radar contact. It is very odd that a plane on radar would suddenly vanish completely. And the lack of any debris on the water thus far is odd as well.

    Now they're saying the plane may have turned around before it disappeared? Curiouser and curiouser.....
     
  22. Tcar

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    That's only 2 hours... not 3.

    I don't think that it's 'missing'... they just didn't check in.
     
  23. Tcar

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    There's a new report of a 'rectangular object' in the water near the oil/fuel slicks.
     
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  25. Ak Jim

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    Something to keep in mind about radar coverage is its not continuous, IE the radar antenna sweeps back and forth. Also if certain parameters are exceeded the radar software blanks the returns out. In the KC-135 if we were light weight we would often drop off the scope because our climb rate would be to great (6000 + fpm). An aircraft that had major problems, think even electrical failure and loss of transponder coupled with large altitude changes could easily disappear off of the scopes.
     

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