Look, robotic hemorrhoid surgery performed by a doctor half way around the world is mind boggling cool stuff too. But that doesn't mean I want to watch it on TV.
Good ideas but would like some tracks to stay abroad: Melbourne GP (always a cracker) Suzuka (best track along with Spa) Canada (see melbourne) Sao Paulo (can't remember a bad race here, ever) Can chop all the rest in for more European races on tracks like Imola, Mugello, Jerez, Valencia, Brno and Assen (weird for someone for Zandvoort the last one, whilst I prefer the track in Zandvoort there simply isn't a viable way to park 100K people in or around there, and no normal way to get that many people there on trains either). Do quite like Sepang though...
It's not about the energy consumption of the participants themselves, nor about the competition series. It's about the technology and alignment with directions of automotive technology - the same way carburators in NASCAR are obsolete and irrelevant, the V8s in F1 were irrelevant. For green global events - the Tour de France bicycle race has far more carbon emissions than an F1 race, because of the emissions put out by the vehicles of all the spectators. An average NFL or MLB game has far greater carbon emissions than any F1 event because of the emissions from the vehicles of all the spectators. F1 is not anywhere near the top of sporting event carbon footprints. I loved it also. And all the Chicken Littles whining about how F1 will be a fuel economy formula were proved dead wrong - nobody had to dial back to conserve fuel, unlike races last year or before where the teams under-fuelled and got their calculations wrong.
Si. Formula One by Al Gore. No interest. Hopefully people will turn it off so the rules will be changed. No rev limits is a start.
I love the instant torque, makes the cars exciting. But the whole powerunit going wrong constantly is quite irritating. It needs to be a lot louder too, this is ridiculous. We'll get the tail wagging etc too if we have an N/A engine with mechanical diff. (K)ERS can still be part of that, doesn't bother me much...but at least we'll have noise back. The noise is the thing that gets me the most now, along with fuel flow limits. Give them a decent amount of fuel and tell them all to put foot.
The fact that the fastest lap was set before the race was halfway complete and then coasted the rest of the race is it. It's over. Time to watch a new motorsport and spend my money there.
Indeed. Porsche and Ferrari have realized that already and put it in their road cars. More to come. I was one of the chicken littles and I'm not sure we have seen the last of that quite frankly. We'll see.
The only thing as boring as the racing are the drivers. They're just a bunch of corporate robots. Not one F1 driver has a nickname. There are no driver rivalries (e.g. Prost vs. Senna, Lauda vs. Hunt). BORING!!!!!!!!
boy those are some ugly ass cars. and they dont sound so great either. whatever happens, it seems pretty clear that the days of formula one being awe inspiring are definitely over.
I like an am amazed by technology too... HOWEVER, disqualifying a guy after the race not because his car burnt too much fuel but because he exceeded the FUEL RATE limit at some point in the race is nothing short of ENGINEERING ANAL-ISM. It's ridiculous. What's the point?
+1 The State of CA has more emissions in one day than ALL of motor racing in one year! Its ridiculous to anoint F1 the green proving ground for all future passenger vehicles. I find it hard to believe that major auto manufacturers can't figure this out without going racing?
I'm with Andreas on this one! F1 should always be at the forefront of automotive technology, these new reg changes have brought that back. I really loved the Aussie race, the cars at the moment look like a real handful, more power than grip, which we have not seen for a long time (certainly not during the V8 era). For anyone saying that this new Formula is to slow, well give it 6 months to a year and i will bet the engineers will be matching and i expect bettering the times of recent years. As for the guys on here saying that they are done with F1 and are only going to follow the Lemans and WRC, well is this the same Lemans where the leading cars are all turbo hybrids and virtually silent diesels, and the WRC with 1.6 litre boost restricted turbos ?
Great! Let's race these high technology gas savers! Top technology "the forefront of automotive technology"... 400 mpg! Max speed about 6 MPH. There's many ways to describe "the forefront of automotive technology" -- not just fuel efficiency. Image Unavailable, Please Login
They all race to the same formula. Whether it be engine size, tire changes, fuel tank size, wing size etc etc. Fuel burn is just one more rule. Give the teams the formula and let them have at it. Making F1 more environmentally sensitive is just being aware of the reality of the world. Does anyone want to give the Greens an excuse to picket the European races along with governmental regulation that might result ? If F1 does not regulate itself I'm sure socialist governments will only be happy for an excuse. Every year its the same cry; "The death of F1" Kers (ERS) and DRS being the latest. I want close racing and variety not the years of Ferrari and red Bull Domination no matter how loud the engines scream.
Big difference between 100% electric cars and the new F1 with turbos + ERS. If it were all electric, I'd be not interested in the least. But turbo + ERS is simply brilliant and IMHO the way forward with road cars as well. I'm not green at all. If I were, I'd hate fossil fuel engines and would be a fan of Formula E.
And what "reality" is that? Jedi said it correctly... if you are worried about green house gasses, get rid of the giant mega homes on wheels, the jet planes shipping people and parts around the world, the general waste of fuel, water, oil, and food -- not to mention all the money being spent. Give it all to starving kids in Africa. Oh no... F1 will NEVER do that. They need the sponsors to keep their dog and pony show alive. This is not about Ferrari doing well or poorly. It's about the purpose of racing as a sport. When it becomes a political football, it's no longer racing. It's an engineering exercise for the enjoyment of engineers and politicians --- but not fans. Who decided that this "formula" is actually best for fuel economy anyway? Engineers -- or organizers who want to be more green to make politicians happy?
This car is powered by gas. Why can't this be the next "formula"? Isn't that the point? Making gas powered cars more "green" by racing technology?
He was disqualified because the team was warned that his car was exceeding the fuel rate. The team chose to ignore the warning and that is why he was DQ'd.
Its about compromise. If you dont think that governments wont step in when they feel like it ask the Cigarette manufacturers their opinion. And yes it is a dog and pony show. Ever since the first paying sponsor put his name on the side of a car. Perhaps thats when F1 "died". Agreed. Its a set of rules handed to the engineers. Always has been. Lets see how the fans react before announcing the death of F1.
If you guys REALLY wanted what you say you wanted, then you would take a Lotus 49 and modernize it with CF, safety crash zones, and Kers. We all know all the aero techology is totally wasted on passenger cars. Yet, how much money is spent on getting the most out of aero? It's the entire reason they added DRS in the first place -- because aero stuff was inhibiting racing. Get rid of all telemetry also aside from pit to driver taking. It means nothing to passenger cars. Go back to a simpler formula with no wings, give engineers more free reign in choosing the format of their powerplants, and let the drivers RACE instead of being robots controlled by a team of engineers thousands of miles away. Image Unavailable, Please Login
1.) every race from the last ten years has had "cars fighting for position" and certainly much more of that than this race 2.) usual suspects were still up front, whopee williams is a bit quicker this year but other than that not much shocking 3.) outcome was extremely predictable after the first lap, no one was touching the benz Ill give you the fact that the cars were sliding around more, that was entertaining.
The rules are set by "anal engineers" to prevent grey areas. They don't want the teams getting around the new regs, therefore solid rules. They were warned, and they chose to ignore it.
