Malaysia Airlines loses contact with B777-200 / MH370 enroute from KUL to PEK

Of course if you were really smart and had thought of this, you would input a new "false route", knowing that it would go out via ACARS. Then after disabling the transponder and ACARS, go somewhere totally different.

Either way though, when the ACARS report went out, it would be known that someone entered something "wrong" into the FMS. This would probably rule out a mechanical issue. If there was a fire or major electrical failure, you wouldn't be programming the FMS for a course change ahead of time.

Again, just my thoughts......

 

The most interesting thing about this, to me, is that if this is true, the Malaysians have known about it since probably the day after the airplane disappeared.

 

Yeah, they sure should have.

Again, I haven't been following the story. I just saw that someone posted it was FACT that the FMS had been changed. This could explain how they knew.

 

Lou- That 45,000' number came from a military radar, not IFF, and could have been several thousand feet off from actual altitude.

 

If you input the new route into the FMS but save it as route 2 let's say and not execute it until after you pull the breakers, wouldn't that obscure the new route information. Similar to having a saved route for diversion for just in case scenarios.

 

Even though 45K is beyond performance and service ceiling I assume they could get there momentarily in a zoom-climb type maneuver.

 

Yeah, that would hide it.

 

so if the engines are reporting constantly to satellites.... their conditions.

Im guessing after this whole mess... they are making a software change, and making it render GPS location as well?? something that cant be turned off!!

 

This picture shows a plausible scenario that explains the Malaysian military radar and the eyewitness accounts from the Maldives the next morning. Perhaps they made the turn, were overcome by smoke and it extinguished itself.
http://i.imgur.com/txEaNxf.jpg

Many scenarios explained here as well.
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The idea of the plane hiding in the radar shadow of a nearby airliner seems the stuff of James Bond, but who knows. Very intriguing idea to pass through regions of the world where the military does watch 24/7.

 

Interesting theory on the Maldives.

 

Anyone else notice the report about reprogramming the FMS came from American sources? How would they know? Seems like there is little primary info coming from Boeing or RR...

With the path past the Maldives wouldn't Indian or Sri Lanka radar have a flight track??

SV

 

Malaysian authorities "officially" ruled the Maldives scenario out at their last press conference --- stating that they have investigated reports and made appropriate inquiries, and concluded that they have proved to be false.

 

I'm pretty much operating under the assumption that everyone is inept at this sort of thing except the US. Malaysia doesn't exactly strike me as a place with the infrastructure and knowledge to conduct this kind of investigation. For all we know, an inquiry in Malaysia means they asked two people who didn't see anything. I feel like anything not said by the NTSB should be taken with a heavy grain of salt.

 

Hmmm. Must remember to avoid national stereotypes............

 

Not national stereotypes, just that the US/NTSB is the best in the world at this sort of thing, and most countries don't have the resources or experience at their disposal to be as thorough as the US.

 

Beg to disagree because oceanic points are typically 1 hour apart and they are saying they did this 12 minutes before the turn. Most likely there are not two waypoints within 12 minutes of each other on an oceanic route. Possible but highly unlikely.

 

Has it occurred to everybody that there are now more theories on this than there are on the recovery of Michael Shumaker or the resurrection of Elvis?

 

Whoa! Elvis was in Malaysia?

 

What about the following theory:

1) Something went wrong on board.
2) Pilot wanted to land and acivated autopilot in the direction of an alternate airport.
3) Crew and Pax lost consciousness because of smoke/low pressure.
4) Plane went straight to the southern Indian Ocean and finally crashed, when they went out of fuel.

Just like the Payne Stewart learjet crash: 1999 South Dakota Learjet crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

What could have "gone wrong" on board that would knock out all the radio/radar response systems, but allow the autopilot to continue to operate for 6 hours?

 

It is my understanding they would have navigated after donning oxygen masks, and then communicated. It seems unlikely a fire would have destroyed everything in the communications, and killed the passengers and crew, but kept the autopilot.

I could be wrong but I think the autopilot also would not alter altitude like they are reported to have done.

 

Actually, I wouldn't call that area oceanic. I fly this area at least once a month. The distance between land masses is only a little over 200 miles. While I don't know the filed route, the distance between most waypoints is less than 100 miles. That's 12 mins in a 777.

Again, I haven't watched the news in the last few days. But 12 mins would equate to maybe 1 waypoint.

Attached are a few pics. The first shows a few Malaysian flights heading that way. The second and third show waypoints in the area. The distances are very short (less than 100 miles)

Again, I don't know what the news is saying. Just some info.....
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News reports (breaking) saying Australian satellites have located what appear to be aircraft parts in the Southern Indian ocean.

More to follow...

 

I think IGARI was where they made the turn. So the previous reporting point looks to me to be IKUKO, 74 miles (assuming I'm reading it right).

 

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