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In pursuit of a 430 Scuderia...hopefully

Discussion in '360/430' started by singletrack, Mar 18, 2014.

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  1. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
    I contacted that seller regarding that ebay-scud also. No track miles. No unscheduled services. No accidents.
     
  2. LI2782

    LI2782 Formula Junior

    Jul 19, 2010
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    not sure if it's been posted here, but there's an 808 mile Scuderia Red Scud for sale outside of Boston for $195k...just to add another data point.

    oh and the same dealer has a 300 mile 16M Rosso Corsa for $295k
     
  3. Afonsolaw

    Afonsolaw Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2011
    1,911
    New jersey
    Where is the link for this red scud in Boston so we can check it out
     
  4. LI2782

    LI2782 Formula Junior

    Jul 19, 2010
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  5. Afonsolaw

    Afonsolaw Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2011
    1,911
    New jersey
    Cloth interior plus an 08 that's why it's 195... The 09 command a 10k premium and thd alcantera is also more desirable. Still a good price... Someone should snatch this up quickly
     
  6. scuderia09

    scuderia09 Formula 3
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  7. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

    Aug 30, 2011
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    #107 freshmeat, Mar 25, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2014
    I don't entirely agree with this opinion.

    Low miles does not equate to "perfect shape". In fact as most seasoned Scuderia owners on here know, a reasonable amount of driven miles over a reasonable amount of time is the better gauge of a scud's running condition.

    95% of the time all the gremlins and issues have already been rung out on the more driven examples while the ones that have sat around the last 4-5 years pose a huge unknown ie hidden expenses ie downtime when car is in the shop etc a few more miles down the road. If you're buying it as a show piece then it probably doesn't matter, but if you're actually going to buy it to drive and enjoy on the road this should be very important. I personally wouldn't touch a car that has not been driven at least 2k miles a year, that's only 167 miles a month for pete's sake.

    Edit: I know some folks will argue and say well as long as the fluids are frequently changed out then it doesn't matter if it sits. Well, a Ferrari master tech in Maranello once told me, just like a person, the car needs to be exercised regularly to maintain peak mechanical performance. So, just like a person, who would you think is healthier? A person fed nutrition through a tube all day and stranded on a bed? or someone who eats regular meals and does regular exercise?
     
  8. LI2782

    LI2782 Formula Junior

    Jul 19, 2010
    917
    #108 LI2782, Mar 25, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2014
    highly doubt it's been in a crash, Copley is a top notch outfit. I was thinking seller needs cash bad because it seems the 16M was probably owned by the same guy. What are the chances of them having two extremely low mile examples of those cars at the same time? Not to mention it seems he wanted to preserve them, so why unload now before they appreciate unless he desperately needs to.
     
  9. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 29, 2010
    20,503
    Wyoming
    Good grief...let's speculate aliens are are play too...195k for an 800 miles red 2008 scud is fair asking price based on all indicators except 1 or maybe 2 zero mile preserved cars that sold much higher. Those exceptions aside, Keep wishing these cars are selling over 200k.

    In 95% of transactions they most certainly are not.

    Short bus special posters are simply deluded or more likely trying to distort the market by posting nonsense here. Either way, very lame.


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  10. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 29, 2010
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    Wyoming
    PS - if you really want a demonstration of short bus idiocy, check one of these posters' posts on this topic going back a year or two...


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  11. Art138

    Art138 Formula 3
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    Nov 22, 2007
    1,534
    Ft. Lauderdale
    The merits of leather over Alcantera was debated by us Scud owners a few years back. Desirability of either was pretty much split 50/50. In my case I preferred leather over the Alcantera. I do agree that if you plan to track, the Alcantera might be preferable by prospective buyers.
     
  12. LI2782

    LI2782 Formula Junior

    Jul 19, 2010
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    Haha! I wasn't sure if such aggression was warranted as I haven't followed the market, but I didn't like that guy's passive aggressive comment either. Lots of idiots on fchat lately. Think I'm done with this forum.



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  13. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
    There is a post where "alfonso" is saying that no one is selling these things...while simultaneously trying to sell his in a different thread.

    I hope the "law" isn't as in lawyer...ugh.
     
  14. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Happens : )

    Lots of really cool, helpful people though also!
     
  15. Afonsolaw

    Afonsolaw Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2011
    1,911
    New jersey
    The troll speaks once again... Why don't you talk once you get one. Love my Scud jut got it and enjoying every minute of it. :)
     
  16. Afonsolaw

    Afonsolaw Formula 3

    Sep 11, 2011
    1,911
    New jersey
    Good luck buying the cheapest Scud for sale... Real smart!
     
  17. LI2782

    LI2782 Formula Junior

    Jul 19, 2010
    917

    He seems to acknowledge the risk he's taking/what he's getting into. Just because it's something you wouldn't do doesn't mean you get to chastise him for what he decides to do with his money....


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  18. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Nah, I think I'll speak my mind whenever I like. As to who the troll is, well that's the most ironic thing I've read all day. Name-calling is usually a pillar of intelligent debate as we all know.

    You should do more of that (enjoying your scud) and worry less about me, what I think I can get a scud for, etc.

    You have horrible reading comprehension on top of the misinformation you spread about prices and other items.

    Can't you create another thread to declare your absolute control of scud pricing? This is really getting annoying and old and we would all like to talk about other things now.

    kthxbye
     
  19. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
  20. Darth_Homer

    Darth_Homer Formula Junior

    Mar 29, 2014
    272
    Wow good price! Congratulations in advance :) very nice color and still looks fresh!
     
  21. Knightrider

    Knightrider Formula Junior

    Jun 4, 2013
    432
    United States
    One things for sure- they know how to properly detail a car to make it shine!!

    Good luck with everything!
     
  22. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 29, 2010
    20,503
    Wyoming
    Single track - that looks like your car...scud pricing model suggests $150k range...($160k if it has the US carbon package)...so the asking price is right where one would expect.
     
  23. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Thanks man! That is previous miles and asking. It is up to 23k and the seller seems to be realistic about selling it. I'm hopeful we can reach a deal...we will see! : )

    Was just on the track this past Sat in the M3 and there was a 430 challenge car in a different group...omg - musica...musica!
     
  24. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,805
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Owner decided to keep it : (

    I agree with his decision and wish him well! ; )

    So...still in the market. Reached out to CNC since they seem to deal in a lot of Scuds. My buddy Chad is also keeping his ears open.
     
  25. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Nov 9, 2008
    8,841
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