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Ferrari crashed, no modern !!!

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by bellabarbas, Mar 11, 2014.

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  1. michael platzer

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  2. michael platzer

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  3. BIRA

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    Same historic driver racer CM in both cases for LM and 206sp if I am correct. When he comes on the track and indeed he is fast,,,I let him pass otherwise you know what may happen...and my cars have original panels...
     
  4. Vincent Vangool

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    Good choice.
     
  5. michael platzer

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  6. GIOTTO

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  7. Ferrari_250tdf

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    Well remember his bad accident in Imola at the Ferrari Finals 1998 when he crashed his 375 Formula 1 into the wall and sustained very bad facial damage. He only had an open helmet and no seat belts. As far as I know his vision is impaired since then.
     
  8. furoni

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    Crazy dude....if i could get all the money spent on repairing all the damage he caused to this cars i would be a very rich guy indeed!!!
     
  9. GBTR6

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    What driver/owner are you speaking of?

    Perry
     
  10. miurasv

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    Carlos Monteverde.
     
  11. bellabarbas

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    Yes, of course, if I know the plate I can find the date of certificate and all the italian plates !
     
  12. thecheddar

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    I think this entire thread is an excellent reminder of why being on track with that guy is a bad idea. Old race cars don't protect you well from errors and that guy has an alarming record of doling 'em out.
     
  13. GIOTTO

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    Every time such an old car is badly damaged, not only a big part of his history is gone but many original parts (body, chassis or other mechanical parts are destroyed and must be replaced. The "new" nose of the LM is completely wrong.
     
  14. Vincent Vangool

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    Like to see the cars on the track but I don't know if going for the gold is necessary.

    That is an amazing piece of damage on the LM.
     
  15. thecheddar

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    That's very true and terribly unfortunate, of course, but loss of life is a far more tragic and real possibility in race cars designed with a pencil, an abacus and little regard for safety. No modern harness, HANS device or multi-layer fire suit will protect us from a dangerous, aggressive driver.

    But that's doubly true on the street of course, so I appreciate the "reality check" this thread represents.
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    That's the question. In the end it's an owners choice.
    I'm for racing the cars (in period spec only please) as they were meant to be driven.
     
  17. Ney

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    Note that the two photos of the LM are not the same crash. #99 in the first, #4 in the second....
     
  18. Vincent Vangool

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    #93 Vincent Vangool, Mar 28, 2014
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    As am I.

    And it is the owners choice for better or worse.

    But at the end of the day I'm more about the cars surviving even if it means displaying them in partial anger.

    Feel replicas are better suited for full anger and the immovable wall.

    Think it's more important for the cars to be seen through time versus at speed for one afternoon.

    But to each his own.

    Noticed. Also noticed that the three 206 crashes also seem to be separate incidences.
     
  19. 250P

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  20. Vincent Vangool

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    Any idea how original the body was before his ownership versus after?

    "Chassis 032 remains a very original example of one of the prettiest looking Ferraris ever to leave the competition department"

    Hmmm...?
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    Cars are dynamic art.
     
  22. Vincent Vangool

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    #97 Vincent Vangool, Mar 28, 2014
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    I agree.

    My main interest in the cars is the building and driving of them.

    But I would like to see them survive through time.

    Vintage racing has always been my favorite way to see the cars. I really enjoy when they are cruising through the paddock and the exhaust is popping in your ears. It's great because the cars are a time machine that exists. You can live the days when these cars roared. Who wouldn't want to see that at full tilt.
     
  23. VIZSLA

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    That's the paradox.
     
  24. Vincent Vangool

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    Can't argue that.
     
  25. phrogs

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    Most of these are race cars, you race you will crash from
    Time to time. One reason they are so valuable is some didn't make it!
     

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