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NEED TO VENT BECAUSE I JUST GOT SCREWED!!!!

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  1. Cape308

    Cape308 Karting

    Mar 13, 2014
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    Cape Cod
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    Peter Zawadzki
    Need opinions here if i'm in the wrong or right!!!

    I had a PPI on a car done yesterday afternoon and received the results late last night. I called to owner today around 2pm to ask a few questions about the car and he said he was going to get back to me with some answers and I said I would let him no ASAP. Less the 3 hours later I get an email saying he just sold the car!!! And I'm out $350.00 on a wasted PPI.

    One would assume that the proper thing to do is let someone know that their is another potential buyer around the corner, and not just say that he has other people interested. I was only a phone call away!!!

    In my opinion, this was a crap thing to do and people should treat other people with more respect and courtesy. I understand the car needs to be sold, but not giving someone enough time to read the PPI and selling the car is ridiculous and an a**hole move!!!

    VENTING< VENTING< VENTING!!!!!!

    THIS IS BEYOND BULLSH*T and something I would expect from a sleazy car sales man!!
     
  2. 1Evil4re

    1Evil4re Formula Junior

    Jun 24, 2012
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    David
    Dude that really does suck!! He should have had the courtesy to let you know ahead of time that he might have other serious buyers. Sorry.
     
  3. Crowndog

    Crowndog F1 Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
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    Yes you were screwed by an individual that has no empathy. A sociopath. It could have been worse as these types are capable of much worse. I feel your pain. Narcissistic sociopath:
    sociopath[ soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee- ]
    noun [Psychiatry.]
    1. a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.




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  4. MNExotics

    MNExotics F1 Rookie
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    Dec 13, 2010
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    Ben Gruenzner
    I'd be pissed too. The car business is cut throat but that doesn't make it right. What car was it just out of curiosity.
     
  5. 1Evil4re

    1Evil4re Formula Junior

    Jun 24, 2012
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    David
    On another note, your name is not that common here but I have a friend with the same last name as yours. Do you have any relatives living in TN?
     
  6. LARRYH

    LARRYH F1 Veteran
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2011
    9,662
    virginia usa
    Don't feel to bad a few years ago I was flying to the west coast to look at a used 550 at a well know ferrari dealership (from the east coast) bought the ticket and got to phoenix and got an email as I was changing flights that the car was sold.... kinda a lousy deal .. he knew I was coming we had agreed on a price etc..and he sold it while I was traveling *** happens....
    but I ended up with a better car...
     
  7. Wade

    Wade Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 31, 2006
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    Wade O.
    Truly sucks! :mad:

    Per chance, did you get to see the car personally? Reason that I ask is because I've learned never to do a remote purchase again unless it's through a highly reputable person/company. No PPI or nothing until I see the car first.

    Know the type... and deal with them on a regular basis.
     
  8. Cape308

    Cape308 Karting

    Mar 13, 2014
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    Cape Cod
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    Peter Zawadzki
    I have no clue where I have relatives. I kinda grew up not knowing about my family history. But see if they have family in Massachusetts or if they have family in the Lezajsk Poland area. As I would like to meet some family one day!
     
  9. Cape308

    Cape308 Karting

    Mar 13, 2014
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    Peter Zawadzki
    Didn't get a chance to see it in Person! I have 2 young boys (1.5yrs & 3 Yrs) so the ability to get away is limited, but I have gotten great help from this board and even had offers from people to take a look at some cars for me.... so I still have some faith in people.

    I'm actually going to be taking a look at Mike308gts 1979 GTS.
     
  10. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2008
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    Sux.

    Trust is overrated these days.
    If I liked a car enough to spring for a PPI I'd get a signed agreement contingent on a successful inspection scured with a deposit.

    Depending who did the PPI you might get some rhythm from them in the form of a discount next time around.
     
  11. 308gtsqv

    308gtsqv Formula Junior

    Feb 12, 2008
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    Mike
    That sucks peter :/ we'll have to take my car out soon to keep you pumped on getting a 308!
     
  12. Cape308

    Cape308 Karting

    Mar 13, 2014
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    Peter Zawadzki
    Mike, Hopefully this snow melts and we can go for a spin. My MGA is dying to leave the garage!
     
  13. Kayvan

    Kayvan Karting
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    Mar 29, 2009
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    Put urself in his shoes....

    He could have had a cash buyer take the car on site

    Delaying to check with you could have cost him the deal

    Lot of tire-kickers have ruined the car sales business....I have wasted entire Sat, received hate filled voice-messages and been near swindled

    It's a Ferrari not a Kia; you hit the bid or lose the trade
     
  14. JohnnyS

    JohnnyS F1 World Champ
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    Oct 19, 2006
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    Perhaps the car was sold fast before you uncovered issues that he didn't want to address. Or, he simply sold the car. Kind of stinks but I had kind of the same thing happen to me, but I refused to buy the car after the PPI so lost the cost of the PPI. I just look at it as a learning experience and the lost PPI money was a good investment to avoid a problem child of a car.
     
  15. MS250

    MS250 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Call him out if he's an fchatter ;)

    I would go to his house, and bust his balls until I got my $350 worth of annoying him in person.

    I know....I need a new hobby.

    Go back and reread his post.

    He didn't even have the next day to get the ppi report to evaluate.....the guy could have called and told him.
     
  16. Cape308

    Cape308 Karting

    Mar 13, 2014
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    Peter Zawadzki
    It is what it is.... I'm sure i'll find something better. It was a 1980 GTS and I would rather a carb model or QV.
     
  17. Thomas Magnum

    Thomas Magnum F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2013
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    I was the first to answer an ad. It passed the eyeball test and appeared to be a very good 308. I negotiated a price pending a successful PPI, and put a deposit down immediately.

    Glad I did because the seller had two full price offers, sight unseen, the very next day. He honored our agreement though, because of the deposit. It's business, but we've become good friends since.

    Mark


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  18. JohnnyS

    JohnnyS F1 World Champ
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    +1. Just move on and get a better car.
     
  19. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    That's what an uneducated person do, no common sense and no common courtesy.
     
  20. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2008
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    That's what I did as well. The car never left the PPI shop.
    When it passed I went up and reviewed the recommended work and then dropped off the balance with the ex-owner.
    When you find the right one you've got to get it done without delay.
     
  21. SilverLeaf

    SilverLeaf Formula Junior

    Feb 1, 2011
    309
    What questions did you ask him about the PPI? Who knows...Maybe he didn't sell the car, and just lied to you because he doesn't want to come clean about what you uncovered. Either way, he's a weasel, and you're better off in the long run for not buying the car.
     
  22. dwhite

    dwhite F1 Rookie

    I would want to know if the information regarding the PPi you paid for was shared with the other person. I would call the seller and ask to be reimbursed for my PPI. No one does a PPI without the intent to purchase, based on the PPI information. A crappy thing to do on the sellers part. Private sale or Dealer?

    On a another note, if the person selling acted this way maybe that is the way the car was cared for also and you did not miss out on anything. I'm sure you will find another car.
     
  23. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Aug 10, 2002
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    Sucks but bottom line guy with cash wins. People here think the ppi is critical when in fact they can tell very little. People who do not know what they are buying move slow. If you move slow sometimes you loose.
     
  24. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    May 4, 2001
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    I think you are coming out ahead here and just don't realize it. That $350 could have been a total piece of **** car that a $350 ppi can't spot and you would have wished you never brought it home.

    Judging from the seller's actions, how can you even trust the car was worth it?

    Some things happen for a reason and I think you are going to end up a lot happier in the end with a much better car.
     
  25. thecarreaper

    thecarreaper F1 World Champ
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    Sep 30, 2003
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    meh, I have paid for PPI's and walked away from the cars, only to see them sold and the new owner is pissing and moaning about the issues the "old car" has. Nobody wants to buy a turd, and what happened seems like it could have been avoided with a phone call.
    But $350.00 to avoid a car with issues is a cheap way to dodge a bullet, unless the car was a cheap project, which usually is sold with no PPI anyway. These cars are not getting any younger, but they did make just enough of them that we all should be able to find one when the time is right. 80 GTSi has sodium filled valves anyway. Time for head gaskets and a valve job if its a long term keeper.
     

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