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  1. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    True enuff, other than that it's a case of banging yer head against a wall.
     
  2. VIZSLA

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    You can lead a whore to culture but you can't make her think.

    I hear a lot of whistling past the graveyard here.
     
  3. tifosi12

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    Not from me. Not worried in the least.

    In fact I offered TheMayor to accept his bet about the demise/survival of F1 in 4 years.

    All my personal friends who are into F1 share my view that this season is much more interesting than the last.
     
  4. cmcclive

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    Last "barrage" of "NFL is bigger" info, from the NFL directly:
    NFL Communications - Halftime Report: NFL Games Are Tops In Season Of Fantastic Finishes «
    NFL has averaged 16.8M viewers through 133 regular season games (doesn't include 3 weeks of November, or December or playoffs, but that would add up to 2.2B viewers through Nov7th last year. (NFL might have over 4B viewers in a year... but I am too lazy to find end of year data.)
    NFL Communications - 20 NFL Games Top 25 Million Viewers In 2013 «
    same as my top 24 games were 594M viewers, but from the NFL directly.
    Ok, back to F1, I swear.
     
  5. ginge82

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    In the US alone more than 100 million people have tuned into a single NFL game for the last few years at least.

    The last superbowl was the most watched televised event ever apparently.
     
  6. PhilNotHill

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    Has F1 lost its way?

    What is the purpose of F1? Is it a business to maximize profits, an environmental tool or a sport?

    Trying to be all three doesn't seem to be making it.

    IMVHO a great sport will generate profits. Witness the NFL.

    Best
     
  7. Bas

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    I don't buy it that F1 is the single most watched sport in the world. Doesn't make sense. Anywhere I've lived in the world, rarely are people I meet interested in F1. Almost everyone is talking about football.

    Few people can believe I watch F1 absolutely fixated yet do not care for a second about football.

    Here in Africa, add rugby to that list of most watched. Not many watch F1.

    Perhaps the numbers are all over the place because of how the viewers are counted. If you're only counting Premier league or world cups and then individual games, I can see F1 easily near the top still. But almost everyone I know watch all the world cup games and without doubt all the matches of their favourite teams, and then still the interesting matches on that weekend (I'm told there is plenty of choice).


    I meet a lot of people. Perhaps everyone is really ashamed of watched cars going round on TV and don't want it known publicly...:D ;)
     
  8. tifosi12

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    World Cup and Olympics are the most watched sports events globally.
    F1 is the most watched sports series over a year.

    That said I also wonder how the numbers are collected as I can easily see how all soccer games on TV worldwide must have a bigger audience. So F1 might beat one particular series but probably not all of soccer.
     
  9. ginge82

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    If it is an environmental tool it has failed before it has started. Cars that do less than 10MPG, tires that can't complete a race and teams flying cars and employees around the world, along with teams like Mercedes having a convoy of 23 team trucks everywhere. Even Bernie has called out that sport on that hypocrisy.
     
  10. merstheman

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  11. DeSoto

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    I´ve read somewhere about drops of 40% in TV ratings in some countries. Probably this is also related to the dominance of one team over the others, but there´s a problem indeed.

    I´ve never been against the new rules, but I admit that "some tweaking" is required. In any case, I´m totally against rule changes mid-season.
     
  12. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    A 40% loss would indeed be alarming. I wish there was a reliable global ratings source.
     
  13. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    Must be noted that in most countries TV ratings have been slowly going down in the last 3 or 4 years.
     
  14. italiafan

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    For years I never missed a race...now I haven't watched a single one in > 2 years.

    Utterly boring parade laps with points being reverse engineered by the Stewrds. Absurd rules.
    Primadonnas with impressive technical skills...nothing more.

    Won't watch a minute more of F1 ever unless they do something to bring back...gasp....racing.

    Crazy fast cars, amazing technology allowed to be developed by each team (stop the spec series crap), aggressive and brave drivers who can actually...gasp...pass someone.

    The first guy (gal) over the finish line wins.
     
  15. Bas

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    Exactly...I think for instance, all Manchester United fans globally watch more football matches a year of their own team and significant international matches combined than there are F1 viewers.

    With that I mean they watch their team play and then for instance Germany vs England all in the same weekend. It's difficult to put it in writing for me but this is how almost all my friends watch their football and/or rugby, and most of the world.

    We can't combine all football matches watched vs all of motorsport even...soccer will completely and utterly floor all motorsport, atleast twice IMO.

    That's why we can't get a complete accurate figure, or even a ballpark is hard to get.

    It doesn't affect me though. I wouldn't (theoretically) care if I was the only person in the world watching F1 (obviously I would, because the sport wouldn't exist anymore, lol).

    The two are incomparable.
     
  16. tifosi12

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    + 527 millions :)


    The older I get the less I care what others believe
     
  17. TifosiUSA

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    I like the DPs. They look cool and sound amazing.
     
  18. TifosiUSA

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    This is easily explained, Lewis Hamilton just won and is in the best car this year.
     
  19. william

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    So today's Renault engineers don't know their stuff? LOL

    Turbo engines usually rev lower than atmo, because there is a counter-pressure during the exhaust stroke.

    But the chap is right; a turbo acts as a muffler on an engine and dampers the sound

    I may be wrong, but the single exhaust is mandatory under the present rules, I believe.
     
  20. william

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    I know the feeling; I share your tastes.

    I sometimes feel like an outcast in company; with my complete ignorance about football I cannot maintain a conversation.
     
  21. william

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    I have heard that the sporting event that attract the largest number of spectators in the world (as opposed to TV viewers) is the Tour de France that last 21 days every year in July.

    Millions come to watch the racers on the road, many take holidays to follow it, and it's mayhem on the roads in its vicinity.

    And, spectators don't have to pay!

    It's also transmitted in many countries worldwide.
     
  22. kraftwerk

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    Maybe, however even if he wasn't I believe it would around about the same anyway.

    I just think Brits love their motorsport.
     
  23. CRG125

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    I quoted this same article a few days ago in the F1 sound thread. All they need to do is get rid of the fuel flow restriction bull crap. They are not even running the 15k rpm limit.
     
  24. william

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    I explained in another thread that in my opinion, they cannot just ditch the fuel flow restriction without a complete redesign of the chassis and the engines.

    No fuel restriction = higher fuel consumption = need for bigger tank = new chassis.

    No fuel restriction = higher power = need for stronger engine components.
     
  25. jcosta79

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    More telling (and alarming) than viewership numbers are lack of sponsors. Am I crazy or do most of the cars on the grid look bare this season?
     

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