Ecclestone, Di Montezemelo and Todt hold meeting to improve F1

Another tyre war?

That would really destabilise F1 and push costs upwards!

I didn't like the introduction of one supplier, but now that the system is in place, we shouldn't go back.

 

Who cares about this?

 

"Lack of a familiar nose"? How about "regulating a dildo nose". That's a more accurate way to state it.

 

Maybe not you, but those who run the show and foot the bill do!

If F1 didn't introduce some new technical challenge, I doubt if manufacturers would be interested in investing in it.

 

So now they have a formula where the competitive advantage is for manufacturers only, having to manufacture and design numerous systems. Small teams now have even less of a chance. They need more creativity within the formula and be gone with these nonsense fuel requirements. These 2014 engines get 6 miles per gallon, not a green machine. And who really cares about gasoline usage? They make it while we sleep.

 

That's why sports car racing is becoming more appealing. Formula One shouldn't be about making a better Honda Civic for a university student. It's a shame.

 

Yup.
The tire companies' costs.
There's far too much managed competition in F1. The powers that be have proven that they don't know what's best for the sport so let's give natural selection a chance.
Set the formula as loose as can be and open it to all comers.

 

And that would be bad how?

 

I would like to know Ferrari's list of complaints regarding the current formula. They are using turbo's again in the new california, have hybrid tech in LaFerrari etc, etc.

They have even pushed just how much more efficient the California engine is with regard to fuel. Only last year Luca was complaining that if F1 no longer made sense in terms of pass down technology to their road cars and not mere aero porn he would consider leaving.

Now the sport reflects his cars somewhat he wants a meeting to complain. Strange.

 

That's a good observation. I think the Formula is getting so confined that it produces a champion in pre-season testing. Remove the fuel flow, RMP limits and exhaust specifications and let them go at it.

 

Spot on.
We first saw it with Brawn. A team comes up with a design edge and the rest never have time to catch up.

 

Well said. Like art, its also about the emotional response.

 

If the tyre companies had free reins again, they wouldn't serve all the field the same way but create more division between top team and the rest of the field.
There is no certainty they would foot the bill themselves, and probably they would charge a fortune to less performing teams.
We had that problem before; a two-tiers F1.

As for liberalising the rules, you have to be ready for half the teams to become irrelevant and disappear within a few years. GPs would be run with 12 cars at most.
Do you think that would please the public, the organisers, the sponsors and the TV channels?

 

Most private teams are struggling financially in F1.
There is no more tobacco money and hardly any sponsor cover the costs like before.
Just look at Williams, Sauber, Lotus, Caterham, Marussia, for example.

Apart from Ferrari which makes its own engines, the manufacturers would power the field.
If Renault, Mercedes and soon Honda were not present, where the engines would come from?

The days of independent engine builders are over. That's why we need manufacturers in F1, and why they have a say in it.

 

Yep, totally agree with this, however, I think it's these formula changes and restrictions to push fuel and emissions efficiency, which are making it even harder for the smaller teams to make progress in this expensive new environment. The manufacturers can bench test new technology for street applications every day of the week without financial worry. If you're the one putting up sponsor money for the smaller teams, I'd really question exactly what the ROI metrics are year over year with such rule changes and switch costs.

 

Adrian Newey, the true star of F1, weighs in:

New F1 not as green as it seems - Adrian Newey | Formula 1 | Formula 1 news, live F1 | ESPN F1

 

great article, thanks for posting.

 

Bravo!

 

The current state of affairs in F1 is a microcosm of our planet's debates about its future. What is green? What is sport? How do we appropriately manage carbon pollution so future generations (our children, grandchildren, etc.) don't regard us as massive f-ups as they struggle to clean up the mess we've left them. Difficult questions that demand thoughtful and intelligent answers.

It's a pickle.

Plant a tree.

Or 2000.

M

 

I think you are right there.
We are in a transition period. Future generations will have a different outlook and take greener pursuits.
Already, none of my children is interested in motor racing, and at least one grand child calls it an anti-social activity.
We may not pass along our enthusiasm for F1 and it may die of lack of interest.

 

After watching the cars live, i have no reason to watch an F1 race in flesh anymore.

 

I came to the conclusion years ago that it didn't make sense for me to attend GPs.

The infos from the TV coverage are so good these days, that it's a no brainer for me...

 

Well, that's very 'green' of you. We should all heed the new F1 rules and reduce our carbon footprint by not traveling to these events anymore. Just watch them on TV.
See if that works for the promoters.

 

Not disagreeing with you but probably a discussion better held in P&R.

That said I think as long as people even doubt the obvious climate change (measurable by science), we'll never get anywhere.

 

It's precisely to reduce the carbon footprint that sporting events like GPs will be mostly watched on TV in future and not attended.

Technology will bring the events to you; you will be there virtually from the comfort of your armchair at home! Technology will allow you to choise the noise level that suits you and bring the aroma of trackside as well.

Don't you love it?

The promoters will have to get a cut from TV rights.