What will it take for Ferrari to press the reset button?

You said "wiped the track"

I'm not debating who will or will not ultimately prevail . . .

but they are IMHO the best.

 

I think Luca has identified the problem.

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It is easy to point at Domenicali, but he is running the Ferrari Formula 1 team and we are arguing about it on the internet. What exactly is Domenicali doing wrong?

 

Perhaps Stefano is too nice a guy for the job?

 

I cannot see how a manager can be the scapegoat for the failure of a team.

To succeed, a team needs a good car, good drivers and good tactics.

There is no complain about the drivers, they are competent enough.

It's the car which is below par, and that's the responsibility of the technical team.

Domenicalli can't be blamed for the car, surely, and any tactic he may suggest is like flogging a dead horse.

 

The drivers are not the first problem, but they are a problem. Alonso is one or maybe the best driver in the grid. But he is, for sure, not the driver to develop a car, like M. Schumacher, Sebastian Vettel, Nico Rosberg, Nico Hülkenberg are (for example). He demotivated the team last year. That will never be fixed. There are a lot team members, who want to see him struggle. He is a great Primadonna.
Ferrari has the best driving simulator in F1 and Kimi is refusing to drive it. It's the only way to develop and testing in modern F1. It's not enough to be fast in races.

 

It will not fix anything for this year - but Alonso is gone...and Kimi... who wants him... so you gotta act now!

 

Lol, tomatoe-tomato. Agreed that they are the best.

 

Not winning.

 

If you want to dislike Alonso, that's cool, to each their own. But getting rid of him won't fix the problem. It will probably make it worse.

 

I don't know. I don't really know the guy.

I think a succesful team makes the manager look good. Is Christian Horner such an exceptional manager? Is Toto Wolff?

 

LOL. I've seen nothing, absolutely nothing to support your claim that Vettel can develop a car. I think most agree that Adrian Newey practically developed those cars on his own. I'm not knocking the Nicos, but you apparently feel that only German pilots know how to develop a car.

Kimi has driven the simulator, but that means nothing. The things that are going to fix the F14-T will not be found in the simulator, I'm sure of that.

 

How would you know that? Do you know some people on the team? I know for sure you are wrong about Kimi not using the sim. According to the TV documentry, Kimi was in the sim his first day back. How can any driver develop any car with this limited testing. Those days are long over.

 

Surely as team principal he played a key role in the development of these cars?

He doesn't have the luxury of Horner blaming an external company and their engine.

If a team principal was kept out of the development of the new car the finger of blame goes upward, if he was involved I hope he has plenty of hobbies because he might just find himself with lots of free time soon.

 

even is he is involved, what has he done wrong? He isn't the engineer, he isn't the designer. He is probably responsible for making sure that those who are, do the best job possible. Perhaps he has done exactly that. The fact that the competition did an even better job doesn't necessarily take away from that.

People are so eager to assign blame. Like that is going to help anything.

 

If you assign blame and its deserved it can help a great deal.

As TP he will be judged on results. They speak for themselves IMO.

 

I don't see how that fact that Mercedes did a better job on their engine, leads to the conclusion that Domenicali is doing a bad job. Formula 1 is a highly competitive environment where it is to be expected that the competition has the edge. You just have to do your best to prevent that from happening. 2014 was a huge change in technical regulations and, as is not uncommon, Ferrari didn't come out on top. These things happen. It is a pity, but I do not see how Ferrari will improve by getting rid of Domenicali.

 

I'm only referring to the german drivers because I know the german way of teaching them.
The technical understanding was one thing, that has made M Schumacher special. One of the others was his testing all the time in Fiorano and Mugello. Today, you has to do this in the simulator.
Adrian Newey needs the response from the track. Every change in the aerodynamics has its own result. To develop in the right direction its the key. Therefor you need the right harmony between the technician and the driver.
That it's not the right playground for Alonso and for sure not for Kimi. One of the many reasons, he was fired in 2009.

 

If it were just this season I'd agree but Ferrari has produced second tier cars for a few seasons and sooner or later the boss has to take responsibility.

 

I know some team members through the corsa clienti events and other events in the factory. I know, he is not using the sim. The days of testing out on the track between the races are over. Not testing at all. Fridays practice and simulator.

 

Why does it bother me so much that two guys are wearing a watch on their right hand?

I only noticed it on Stefano when watching live.

 

Red Bull did a better job than Ferrari as well. Since 2008 he's had a single successful season and their latest effort is a complete dud.

Dud this year, 3rd last year, 2nd the year before, 3rd the year before that, 3rd before that and finally 4th the year after his only successful season. That's quite a few seasons under his leadership of other teams doing a better job with their cars.

 

Ferrari could have taken the title in 2010 if it weren't for a bad pitcall in the last race. In 2012 it was down to the last race. They couldn't break the Newey/Vettel charge, but they put up a darn good fight. Winning is always best but it is ludicrous to assume Ferrari has done a bad job in recent years. It is just that, everyone expects Ferrari to win, so even second place is now seen as a failure.

 

Second place is failure.