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  1. Igor Ound

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    The question is what is Fry doing? He should have been next in succession
     
  2. crinoid

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    I have asked before what is going on with fry. Is he underperforming or overrated? Perhaps the culture there is not suited for his flourishing.
     
  3. Igor Ound

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    I think he lacks charisma and maybe that's why Domenicali wanted him
     
  4. Blue@Heart

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    Not if they already know this season is a dud. Give the guy a little spool up/"get to know the system" time, and then it's right about time to start gearing up for next year.

    To expect more than a minor turn around for this year is foolish IMHO.
     
  5. Ferraripilot

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    Add Brawn to the mix and you have a modern age Beetles. That would be a freak show awesome F1 team.
     
  6. Igor Ound

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    Not sure it'd be still enough to beat Mercedes' engine, though
     
  7. DeSoto

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    IIRC, it has already been lifted, Flavio went to court and won. It´s not that the court found that he was not guilty of the crashgate, but that as there is not any FIA license for team managers, he couldn´t be banned.

    Personally, I´m not the greatest fan of Briattore either. Apart from his dirty tricks, his recent record is not that good.
     
  8. ricksb

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    #83 ricksb, Apr 14, 2014
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    I don't think this is a huge surprise given LdM's hissy fit while leaving Bahrain before the finish. However, Luca needs to fire himself also. It was he who made the decision to blow up the Todt-Brawn-Schumacher era before he needed to, then he went nationalistic in replacing the team leaders. Domenicali was not a big name in F1 circles, yet LdM decided to hire a team principal and perform otjt when the sharks were already beginning to circle Ferrari's waters.

    You need to be a smart succession planner when you're the team sitting at the top of the pile. It was too much to ask for a less experienced Domenicali to hold up well against much stronger players.

    EDIT: somebody with photoshop skills, please work Stefano's mug into the picture below.
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  9. TonyL

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    Would it be more sensible to replace SD with someone who has a proven track record or at the very least handing it over someone waiting in the wings. Surely Mr LdM could foresee this moment and put someone in beforehand. I don't know SD but I am sure he was 100% behind the team. Forget Briatore FFS
    Mr Mattiacci was never involved in F1 from what I read and although he may be a highly efficient manager / CEO he will no doubt get steered in the wrong direction by the very people who should have done a better job in the first place.
    Everyone will no doubt be knocking on his door tomorrow morning saying it isn't my fault guv. He will need to be 100% certain who are the capable ones from the outset.

    The irritating bit for me is that most F! fans could see it unfolding, as for LdM standing over the team last weekend was a disgrace, that's the mark of a good president...I think not
     
  10. crinoid

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    And Fred as the woman.
     
  11. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    He was wrong. As was Michaels parking incident at Rascasse. But, I disagree he put lives at risk when he took himself out and into a sand trap along with his rival. Further, these guys are *drivers*, the red mist sometimes descends in the heat of battle.

    Again, I beg to differ. I assume you're once again alluding to Michael squeezing Rubens. No harm, no foul. I'm certain that if he'd have wanted him in the wall, he'd have put him in the wall.

    Fair enough. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. There is no question in my mind that what Flav orchestrated did put lives at risk. Had something gone wrong and a marshal or anyone got killed he'd have been up on a murder charge. That it didn't in no way excuses premeditated action telling a driver to crash intentionally. Very, very different to a driver losing it.

    I understand others don't view it the way I do, but it will forever remain one of the darkest days in the sports history IMO. It's simply wrong and inexcusable in what remains a dangerous sport. Nobody will ever convince me otherwise.

    Cheers,
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  12. Mulehead

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    Ldm the clown hack lawyer should show himself the door
     
  13. crinoid

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    Ferrari very well may not have existed today without Lucca. He was hand selected and trained by Enzo Ferrari.
     
  14. ginge82

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    So you think Senna's actions at turn one of a race was in 'the heat of battle' and not pre-planned knowing that he wins a championship just as long as the driver he crashes into doesn't finish? Really?

    Ridiculous double standards.

    Its fashionable to condemn Flavio for risking drivers safety and throwing a race to win, but its a mere racing incident and sacrilegious to do so with Senna.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvSgJDIsRnc

    That was incredibly dangerous. Now look at 'crashgate' and think long and hard whom you regard a cheat and a disgrace. A sport that worships a driver that does that to Prost should welcome Flavio back.
     
  15. DF1

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    True and everyone has an expiration date. His has probably arrived as well as Stefano's did.
     
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    I cannot understand this logic at all, he has done massive good for Ferrari at almost every level.
     
  18. SlvSurfer

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    I think at this point people just want more heads to roll for Ferrari's failure.

    Gotta love the blame game :)
     
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  21. Ferraripilot

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    I would think with Enzo, being such a peculiar fellow with a bit of a 'loose cannon' attitude as I understand it, saying he 'trained' or 'groomed' anyone would have to be a very very loose statement. I would say Luca spent enough time with the old man to know and understand him, but to never assume he knew what he was thinking.
     
  22. Hugh Conway

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    The off season is too late to start work on the next season. New chief in charge now can start making decisions about resources and personnel.
     
  23. merstheman

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    I agree with the premise of this post.

    In fact, after 2009 I think the only reason Domenicali kept his job was because LdM was too stubborn to accept that he had made a massive mistake in purposefully and prematurely Italianizing the Scuderia for some bogus overly nationalistic reason.

    I like LdM and admire him greatly as a businessman, and though I am not Italian I wish he would have actually run for politics there because I feel he could have been a good PM. But this was a bad move, back in the day, and IIRC Lauda called it early when he said something to the effect of Scuderia Ferrari not working while being run by Italians due to the prevalence of "Spaghetti Politics". I'm paraphrasing the terms but it was something like that.

    I believe Ferrari can continue to win championships being based out of Maranello, and though 95% of the F1 paddock is based out of the UK these days, I don't see it as a necessity - although being in Europe is probably a good idea. But just because they are based out of Italy doesn't mean the team needs to be staffed by Italians just because. Especially not when there are some great candidates out there for many of the available roles.

    Brawn's return would be great, but I honestly believe he's not interested in going back. I hope I am wrong but even if I'm not, how long would that last? The man has "retired" twice already. Ferrari needs someone who is in it for the long(ish) run, and who is relatively inexpensive. With LdM's heavy hand ruling at all times, I would posit the theory that Ferrari needs to be spending the big bucks on the technical team (aerodynamicist, power unit developers, etc) and less on the person whose job it is to deal with driver hissy fits - which, would be the team manager's role if the technical director were cream of the crop. Which might be what they are going for with bringing Marco in. He's an excellent marketer, from what I've read here, and manager. No race experience, but if the technical team is self sufficient, that won't matter as much. And it would get Ferrari ready for a possible F1 budget cap in the next few years. Witness what Mercedes have declared today, regarding the extinction of Bob Bell's role once he leaves. Streamlining is important, and it can be done smartly, especially if Alonso leaves next year and the second seat be filled by a driver who is significantly cheaper, and younger. In fact I hope by 2016 both seats be taken by younger drivers, even if ne of them is Sebastian Vettel, a person I despise but a driver I respect. Who knows, the years might make him more mature, particularly this year where it looks like he will have to fight a bit more than usual.
     
  24. crinoid

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