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  1. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #126 singletrack, Apr 17, 2014
    I did! Very nice color, but not my first choice...couple of red ones just popped onto the market - have some calls scheduled today. Hoping to be a long-term owner, so becoming a bit more finicky about the color. Really appreciate people looking out! : )

    ...also looks like the thread got taking down - perhaps he sold it or traded?
     
  2. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #127 arizonaitalian, Apr 17, 2014
    He did...got a yellow 458. I think there is a thread in that forum. That was a nice scud and sold quickly because he priced it at market (he wanted the model-derived price...I have no idea if he got his asking or not.)
     
  3. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #128 singletrack, Apr 17, 2014
    Thanks! I really love Silverstone as a color, but I would want a red, yellow, or the Italian-stripe for it ideally...or no stripe, then run my own ; )

    As the new-car-madness grips me, I find myself rationalizing a higher priced Scud - if fairly priced and the right circumstances/specs/etc.

    I've had a number of great conversations with sales people all over the US today. : )

    I'm going to go drive the M3, take a cold shower, then sleep on it!
     
  4. dlopez001

    dlopez001 Formula Junior

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    #129 dlopez001, Apr 17, 2014
    Yes, my Silverstone Scuderia sold quickly. A nice young man came by and looked at the Scuderia late Monday evening where we went out on a test drive. The deal concluded today. Car will stay local to So Cal.

    Transaction was concluded at pricing model price +/- a few dollars!

     
  5. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #130 singletrack, Apr 17, 2014
    Thanks for the info!! Congrats on the new ride and quick, pain-free sale.
     
  6. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #131 singletrack, Apr 22, 2014
    I own a Scud : )
     
  7. ttn27

    ttn27 Formula 3

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    #132 ttn27, Apr 22, 2014
    Did you make your purchase? Congrats and let's see pics.
     
  8. MaranelloDave

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    #133 MaranelloDave, Apr 22, 2014
    Yes, after 7 pages of posts, let's see it!
     
  9. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #134 singletrack, Apr 22, 2014
    Here she is...it has not fully sunken in yet.

    Used 2008 Ferrari F430 Scuderia For Sale in the San Francisco Bay Area | VIN: ZFFKW64A380163042

    Michael Deeb is one of the finest sales people I have ever encountered. I really can't say enough good things about the experience. Now I need to book a flight! ; )

    I also can't say enough about this forum...as I mentioned at the outset - I've been blown away by the 308 guys in the past. The scud guys, although fewer in number, also seem like an awesome bunch as well.

    No I did not pay asking price. Yes, the final number was *scary* close to F430GT's pricing calculator. No, this scud will never be back on the market if I can help it. So everyone else's scud just went up in value! Congrats! ; )
     
  10. unogib

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    #135 unogib, Apr 22, 2014
    Congrats! I was just looking at this car. I was thinking of calling on it personally.
     
  11. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #136 singletrack, Apr 22, 2014
    Some pretty interesting things about the car I think:

    --93% clutch life left.
    --The original owner had all of the orange peel taken out of the paint, then wrapped the entire car in clear-bra. : O

    Some other details of the deal:

    CPO
    Purchased 1yr Power Normal Warranty
    I spent more than I wanted to! ; )

    Modis report:

    Vehicle Database 20:40:41
    Chassis £ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 163042
    Vehicle . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 731819040 430 SCUDERIA
    V.I.N . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ZFFKW64A380163042
    Window punching . . . . . . . . . . . . . III
    Note . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    Warranty Start Date . . . . . . . . . . . 09/30/2008
    Warranty End Date . . . . . . . . . . . . 09/30/2011
    Customer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    ---- External Color . . . . . . . . . . . 65427400 ROSSO CORSA DS 322
    ---- Internal Color . . . . . . . . . . . 364700900 INT.IN TESSUTO TIPO CORDURA
    ---- Carpets Color . . . . . . . . . . . 364000000 EXTRACAMPIONARIO-NOT STANDARD
    CALR RED BRAKE CALIPERS
    CEXU US CARBON PACKAGE
    EQBT FULLY TRIMMED BOOT
    INST INSTRUMENT PANEL 094077934 STRUMENTAZIONE COLORE ROSSO
    IPOD IPOD CONNECTION
    LEDS CARB.FIB.STEERING WHEEL + LEDS
    NAVC RADIONAVI SYSTEM + BLUETOOTH
    PNT4 NART RACING STRIPE
    RSCH CARBON FIBRE RACING SEATS 094078317 SEDILI TAGLIA LARGE
    RSFT DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT DEVICE
    T3D1 INTERIOR 3D FABRIC COLOUR 364700763 TESSUTO T3D1 ROSSO
     
  12. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #137 singletrack, Apr 22, 2014
    Thanks! I've been on the phone/email for what seems like a week straight! I think I spoke to people in TX, PA, CA (2), AZ (2), FL, NY, MO! I'm really exhausted honestly!

    I plan to post the other cars and people I was dealing with as well shortly. Going out in the driveway to fist pump and do super high rock n' roll kicks...excuse me for a moment.

    I was not planning on making an offer until later in the week, but Michael and I got so close on price, that I had to pull the trigger.
     
  13. MaranelloDave

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    #138 MaranelloDave, Apr 22, 2014
    Bella! Welcome to the club!
     
  14. tscud

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    #139 tscud, Apr 22, 2014
    Truly am very happy for you. It must be hell to have to wait for it to be shipped.

    Let us know your driving impressions after having it for a few drives.
     
  15. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #140 singletrack, Apr 22, 2014
    Thank you!

    Thank you very much!

    Shipping? Who is shipping? ; ) Reviewing some options now! Headed to San Fran early next week I hope.

    I will definitely let you know what I think. First track day already scheduled next month!!
     
  16. augustxke

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    #141 augustxke, Apr 22, 2014
    Love the scud
     
  17. CarObsessed

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    #142 CarObsessed, Apr 22, 2014
    Congrats singletrack! It's going to be a great joy to drive.
     
  18. CarObsessed

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    #143 CarObsessed, Apr 22, 2014
    Btw, how do I find F430GT's pricing calculator? I'm interested to see if I paid the right price...
     
  19. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    #144 singletrack, Apr 23, 2014
    Thanks!

    Thanks! I can't wait. I've only ever driven one on a track. That is both a blessing and a curse I think. I cannot wait to hit some of my favorite technical roads around here. Western Pennsylvania has some stunning roads with dramatic elevation changes and banking. You can have great fun in some low gears!

    Here you go!

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/141250542-post566.html

    ...and you paid the right price because you own a Scud! IMHO ; )
     
  20. MaranelloDave

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    #145 MaranelloDave, Apr 23, 2014
    The pricing guide is nice as a reference but estimates the prices too high IMO. According to the guide, I should have expected to pay over $200k for my scud. I bought it for significantly less than that though. Just something to consider.
     
  21. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #146 arizonaitalian, Apr 23, 2014
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    Fwiw, I use a slightly modified version which results in slightly (perhaps ~$10k) lower values.

    And, of course there are sales that are higher and lower than the model would calculate....it's a market after all. I know of people here that have paid both more and less than the model...but heck, it's usually with a few percentage points...there was a near zero mile car that sold well above $205k (so the premium for a preserved car was valued by that buyer).

    I love your scud in TDF...rad and I and others debated the color premiums a few times and largely tried to stay away from that while topic but he did include a few attempts at color price deltas in his model. Not to start a war (or even rehash this old topic) , because I love blue ferraris and silver ferraris, but for whatever reasons they don't carry the same value as (resale) red and they take a lot longer to sell in most cases. One can see it everyday in the car ads.

    How many miles did your car have? Year? Full US carbon package? Just trying to see how you calc the model for it. My modified model would have a price well below $200k depending upon those answers.
     
  22. MaranelloDave

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    #147 MaranelloDave, Apr 23, 2014
    Yeah, I think more like $20k less is more accurate. When I was shopping last September the average ASKING price for all scuds (coupe) was $183k. I bought in the $170s.

    My car is 2008, factory stripe, US carbon package, alcantara, Silverstone, 7500 miles (when purchased). This puts the estimate at over $200k, right? That's too high.
     
  23. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #148 arizonaitalian, Apr 23, 2014
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    I don't know your car, in my earlier post I thought it was TDF...sorry got mixed up in another thread :)

    A 2008 with carbon is $195k and then the only adjustments are -$15k for the mileage and +$5k for the grigiosilverstone color = $185k using F430Gt's model.

    Not sure how you are getting over $200k?
     
  24. MaranelloDave

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    #149 MaranelloDave, Apr 23, 2014
    Ah, I think I messed up the mileage part. I added value instead of subtracted. In that case, I agree with you that a $10k downward adjustment seems about right.
     
  25. CarObsessed

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    #150 CarObsessed, Apr 23, 2014
    Ha ha, that's a great way to think about it. I asked because I didn't to enough research before buying it. Being a first time Ferrari buyer, I just went to the showroom and did basic negotiating. I discovered this website post-fact. So I am curious to know how much not doing my homework cost me.

    Nonetheless, I think the salesman at Ferrari Silicon Valley (Charlie Miles) did a great job and helped me with negotiating with the previous owner. So a shout out to them.
     
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