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LaFerrari Review Thread

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by MisterMaranello, Apr 29, 2014.

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  1. Scuderia980

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    14.8 inches. 2.5 inches lower than 458.
     
  2. REALZEUS

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    A LaFerrari or a P1 would be much better than a 458 or 12c, even if they only had 600 hp I reckon. I base this on the fact that they would be much lighter without the KERS systems and that they have the best chassis setup their respective firms have to offer.

    Finally, I think that the leaps today are much bigger than they used to be.
     
  3. noone1

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    #403 noone1, May 2, 2014
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    And so begins regurgitating of journalist adjectives and comments. I'd love to see data on the prevalence of the word electric on Fchat before the CH review.

    I'm sorry, but you do need a race track. I've drive enough to know the difference between how a car feels getting coffee an running errands. I've made the same turns in my neighborhood and on my typical routes to know how much better supposedly significantly better cars are. It's possible I'm just not perceptive to these small things, but it is what it is. Some people say there is a massive difference between a 10s car and an 11s car in a drag race, and 5mph in trap speed. I don't. I bet we'd never even know if the 918, LF, or P1 was superior without timing gear and such.

    There is a floor to where things are noticeable. The tub does not feel better at 30 in normal usage, I guarantee it. Just like it doesn't feel better when parking.

    It does make a difference at 30mph... if the turn is normally taken at 10mph. It does make a difference at 80mph... if the turn would normally be taken at 60mph.

    These things and this usage just doesn't exist in the real word for the most part. Maybe you live in some amazing place that's safe and perfect, but most don't. Normal roads are far to below the limit to really make a difference with such high-end cars.

    This is just my opinion on modern high-end cars in general. I've never and will probably never drive either of these, but it's been my experience with exotics in general.
     
  4. LaFerrari 01

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    It looks that other articles, videos and photos LaFerrari review come 26.5, in this moment can only waiting, but when you everyday looks on LaFerrari review videos, it is good.
     
  5. modena

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    #405 modena, May 2, 2014
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    Twitter profile describes him as "McLaren fan, Industrial Design student.". Every single post on his Twitter seems to be about McLaren. Header photo is, of course, a McLaren P1.

    [link deleted by moderator]

    Facebook page is more or less the same. Picture after picture of various McLarens. Actual Facebook custom URL is "Mark.McLaren.Dennis" (not joking about that..Dennis part is very strange).

    [link deleted by moderator]

    Very active on McLaren Life but spends a considerable amount of his time on Ferrari Chat, never has anything positive to say about Ferrari, only says good things about McLaren.

    If we're dumb, ignorant and biased :)rolleyes:) then what does that make him? Idiot...
     
  6. MisterMaranello

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    #406 MisterMaranello, May 2, 2014
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    It makes him an individual with too much time on his hands... :eek:

    Don't reply to his posts and put him on your ignore list. If all of us did that, he would not get the attention he seeks.

    Peloton25 is a fanboy too, but he does sit on a lot of knowledge. Shame he wastes his time on juvenile hating, when he instead could make constructive and informative comments.
     
  7. andy101

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    #407 andy101, May 2, 2014
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    thank you for the post. and good reasons too. but i am sure you will be warned. funny how this forum has double standard towards different members :)rolleyes:), talking about carrying a conversation like an adult.
     
  8. andy101

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    #408 andy101, May 2, 2014
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    that's exactly why i posted these two links in the first place. it was a response to your quote of him from mclife. a person who accuses majority of forum members ( especially the part of the forum where is active at) with insulting words. and i was warned for personal attack. good job moderator.

    personal pages like these can show you what type of person you are 'debating' against, see if it is worth it. it is no more insulting than calling people ignorant and dumb.
     
  9. MisterMaranello

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    +1

    Why is there no admin action taken against the accounts of these people?

    Sorry if I come across as a crybaby, but anyone who publicly posts offensive comments about the FChat community has no place here.

    It's not about tolerating criticism, it's about keeping hateful speech and attitudes away of a positive community. Take mark antar for instance, how long would he be allowed to post here if he had his comment about how stupid we all are in his FChat profile information?

    Are the admins of FChat really fine with those sort of comments being made against the majority of the FChat community? Sure, if he was only an McLife user we wouldn't care, why should we? But the fact that he's still allowed to troll and take a dump on this forum is outrageous.
     
  10. andy101

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    i think the definition of personal attack is very ambiguous. for that person saying " i don't just hate these cars, i own them" is a passively aggressive personal attack to those he was 'debating' against if you look at it in context. and that's not moderated.
     
  11. MisterMaranello

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    Another funny quote from mark on McLife:

    So mark, what are you doing on FChat you hypocrite?

    And to the mods, how is sharing links to someone's page a personal attack? Jeez, he's the one who said we were all ignorant and dumb.
     
  12. andy101

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    please ask mr. el wayne, i wish i know why.
     
  13. xybyx

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    918's CoG is ~14 inches..

    As a result, the center of gravity is approximately 14 inches, five inches lower than in the current 911 Carrera.
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  14. modena

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    All of the pages are I shared are public, it's up to him to change privacy settings if he doesn't want them to be seen. Considering his username is his actual name I doubt that's the case. It's evident that he comes here purely to stir the pot. How long would any of us last if we did the same over at McLaren Life?
     
  15. MisterMaranello

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    andy101 was warned for doing what you just did so who knows... I guess calling us ignorant and dumb is not a personal attack, but sharing the link to someone's twitter account is? :confused:

    Exactly my point. We would be banned if we did the same at McLife. So why are the mods (el wayne in this case) taking action against a user who's calling a troll out for what he's doing? I don't understand why mark antar isn't placed on a permanent ban, considering his general attitude and his distasteful and offensive comments about the FChat community.
     
  16. El Wayne

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    Let me make it clear to EVERYONE participating in this thread. Keep the discussion about the cars, and not about each other.

    One individual was warned for making it personal because his post was reported. If there were offenses by others prior to that, then shame on those who felt insulted for choosing to join in on the mudslinging instead of reporting the posts. From here on out, any more personal attacks, insults, etc. will result in bans.
     
  17. of2worlds

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    Why are 'Not Subscribed' people even allowed to post in the first place?

    No support of Fchat - No voice
     
  18. andy101

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    that's not personal attack? may as well just ban all those who don't own ferrari.
     
  19. speedy_sam

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    LaFerrari is a Skoda compared to a 917. :)
     
  20. Ferrari 360 CS

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    I don't really see that as a personal attack, rather an observation.

    Its really unfortunate that this thread has once again been about McLaren when this is a Ferrari forum.
     
  21. andy101

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    how's it not one to those that are not subscribed? if there were a rule of subscribing before posting, i am fine with that.
    if you have noticed most of the stuff i typed on here i am calling the trolls out who have been infesting this forum with negative comments and attitude.
     
  22. El Wayne

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    As you know, there are subforums here where the unsubscribed can neither read nor post.
    As well, there is a subforum here where those who do not own a Ferrari can neither read nor post.

    And there are subforums here where those who do not volunteer their time helping to moderate the site can neither read nor post.

    And then there are subforums here where... well, you get the point. ;)
     
  23. AlexKlimt

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    #423 AlexKlimt, May 2, 2014
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    +1.
    As a frequent reader here I'm very pleased to read interesting things about Ferrari, but systematic attacks are really really boring.
    I sincerely hope this Forum will find solutions against trouble makers.
     
  24. andy101

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    thank you for stating the very obvious mr. moderator.
     
  25. MisterMaranello

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    Well El Wayne, if you moderators had done your job in the first place, keeping the provocateurs away (they were called out almost immediately by several users in this thread) this discussion wouldn't have taken place.

    I find it sad that you ignore trolls and bashers for nearly 20 pages of a thread, but when a user posts a link to their public social media profile's it's suddenly a personal attack? I respect that you are people and can't see everything and aren't perfect, but how was andy101's post a personal attack? Because with that logic applied, it makes no sense how a post describing the majority of FChat users as ignorant and dumb isn't an offensive and out of line post?

    Last but not least, how are several posts with nonsense bashing and libellious criticsm of LaF and Ferrari not desruptive? Feel free to reply in this thread or send me a pm.

    Rant over. Let's get back to the reviews.
     

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