Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Well, when I said more for less I wasn't exactly thinking solely on financial side. This car was "overweight pig" with barely 800bhp two years ago, and now it pumps more then even the optimistic expectations shot for. Its also AWD and AWS car with removable roof and luxurious interior, but it also is currently fastest production car around most famous track in the world.
All that while being the least expensive. Thats what I meant by more for less.

I just looked at P1 review from Motor Trend. So...1/4 mile run in 9.8 seconds. 918 spyder (non Weissach Package) did it in 9.9 seconds. Both faster then Veyron, very impressive.

 

That .1 extra second in the P1 will cost a few hundred grand extra

Also wonder if it was the same weight driver with same fuel in both. Take a driver that is 40lbs lighter and a few gallons less fuel and you have enough weight savings or gain to skew another .1 for either car. At these speeds just these small variables might make that last tenth or so....

 

JEEZ MAN! So predictable. You claim to be unbiased towards any of the 3, and yet, you never ever cease to nitpick or be contrary to LaF (latest quibble for you is now about using 2 different cars for press drives and based on your tone, is shady by Ferrari. there is a perfectly legit reason for 2 cars) or 918, while always backing your, yes we get it, your fave of the 3. and what's with all the misinformation (P1 tested on a damp surface) to support you stance? you always find SOMETHING to try and cut down LaF and 918 with...why must there be something bad so that there's more separation between the 3? You and Mark are 'Johnny on the spot'. Aren't you making excuses for P1 with your misinformed 'damp surface' and 'just wait for R-compound rubber'? And remember when I said 'just wait' regarding y'all P1 diehards jab at me...to para "no one cares, believes you and something you saw in a secret file" ? well it won't be long now. here's reminder of what that in-house 'secret file' said: 918 Weissach, 0-60 2.38 sec (MT got close with a proto the standard car). and btw, on that fax, it also said 2.29 sec with 'track tires'. beyond ridiculous.

 

Dave - breathe a little. It's just the Internet.

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I am surprised Godwins law hasn't been invoked here yet ...

 

indeed. the car is fundamentally different from the LaF and P1 in form and purpose yet runs right with them. Kudo's all around. it would also be great if P1 and LaF topless versions are made. I think they'd look great.

 

I have been saying much of the same, particularly about the cars different power delivery/curves ... one being deceptive and the other being more 'overt'. I was heavily criticized for saying journo's were wrong when they said P1 is a lot faster than 918. I said the power delivery sensations were misleading. 918 and P1 are very different and have different missions, yet speed wise, little between them. when Mac set out to build P1 they were very confident it would be much faster than 918 (and only a bit over the more direct competitor) but Porsche's built one heck of a car. I also fully expect LaF to be faster that both 918 and P1, and while being faster, also be the most 'exciting' as it was intended to be.

All three cars have been in my fantasy garage as such:

918 Weissach in liquid silver,
P1 in Silver with carbon trim
LaF in Titanio (with same color roof)

 

yeah. but it gets irksome, the relentless pursuit of negativity.

 

I was really disappointed to see the pathetically small LaFerrari storage. Its not enough for a helmet or an overnight bag. This is the primary reason I disliked road trips in the F50 because your passenger ends up holding everything on their lap and your helmet rolling around on the floor. For a track-only car I can understand but for a road car you need basic storage for a weekend trip. The 918 is REALLY good in this dept, the P1 is acceptable and the LaF is a total fail IMO.
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^ how else are they going to sell you a set of overpriced fitted luggage?

 

Those were my exact thoughts.

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For sure except that space is shared with books, tools, a fire extinguisher and a can of fix-o-flat. No room for expensive luggage…

 

Here's the p1 and 918 boots for comparison. Big difference in build quality as well. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Are you done, or do you need to let out some more anger? I'm here for you. Thanks for letting us in on the Super secret house secret. Anytime I can ruffle your feathers I will. It's just a forum, its the Internet. If everyone agreed this would only be 2 pages long.
Why do you think it's going on 450 pages. Because we're all holding hands skipping along like sheep. Yes, I've picked a side and it's not the porsche. So I would suggest you just ignore me, unless you like your feathers ruffled. It's really that simple.

 

I hope I don't get banned for saying this, but sheep are too dumb to know how to skip.

Goats could probably figure it out, but not sheep - no way.

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Wow, surprised by how many bolts they have used! Whereas in the P1 and the 918, it's just that simple and clean looking carbon fiber. And one of the things I love most about the P1 is that the boot is a part of the front clamshell. Just magnificent!
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This thread is getting good with some heavy hitters chiming in.

 

Well, Ferrari know pretty well that the average owner of the La can have the chauffeur follow them in the Roller or the FF with all the luggage.

 

Some had better find their own sheep meadow.

 

Like the p1 and ring times. The real 918 is just vaporware. Until I see these cars and numbers, its just like the p1s ring time not real. Secret house memos or not. Insider trading secrets or not. Until we see it it's just speculation. Am I wrong for thinking that way or should I believe porsche and McLaren?

 

That just might be true.

 

Amazing thing is that 1 918 proto costs 10 mil and they have built around 30 of them. 300 mil spent only to build test mules. I believe it is more than rd costs of mac and laf together))))

 

Doubt it. McLaren built 20+ P1 prototypes and I bet they cost about the same.

 

it's not anger, it's annoyance. it's too easy to put you on ignore. even then, your ceaseless negativity show's up in everyone else's posts when they quote you, almost always based on misinformation or your own 'educated' speculation. this is not about everyone 'agreeing' but rather enabling discussion not rooted in conspiracy theory by Ferrari or Porsche. and 'siding' with one and it's not Porsche? errr, yeah, is that why anything new about LaF and 918 incites an immediate response to the contrary? Side this. All 3 cars have been in my fantasy garage.