So you are proposing that Vettel leaves the current number 2 performing team who has Adrian Newey and go to a back marker team ... not going to happen. A few more races and Vettel may get used to the lack of rear grip and he will be fast again. Going to Ferrari would be a career ending decision. Either way Alonso has to leave Ferrari. Mercedes or McLaren are better bets IMO. Soon it will be like the late 80's and early 90's for Ferrari. 2 average drivers and an average car again ... how many years to go before another 21 year WDC aniversary? Pete
Alonso and Brawn to McLaren. Button to retire. Hulk to Ferrari where he will be faster than KR. MBz stands pat with drivers. (Hey, it's as good as anybody else's WAG).
Well - I Think I have forecasted this - last year. Alonso - and being great - just dont get it... but nevertheless he will leave Ferrari... He needs a team that has the car switched on ... and only for him- Redbull or Mclaren. Mercedes will be a repeat of McLaren - and I doubt he would go there... with Hamilton. So that means that either Vettle goes to Ferrari - I think actually likely... or Mercedes.. And Alonso goes to Redbull.
Not sure of F1 history, but if Mercedes wanted to try and dominate the competition for a year or two, and blow a lot of money... could they put 3 cars on the grid? Image Unavailable, Please Login
The rumor is that he's signed with Mercedes AND Hamilton. Last season he actually said that he would have no problems driving with Lewis again. ...and Lewis said the same. Mutual respect between the two, but two alpha dogs simply doesn't work on the same team.
Fred and Hami on the same team would be very entertaining. Not necessarily good for the sport. But I digress. Best
Why would he leave now if Ross is coming back into the team? Plus why would Merc drop Nico now? I think he could go to Merc if in 2016 if anything
Spirot, Alonso is clearly proving he is good every race. If you can't see that then ... I just don't get it. Pete
There is no driver related development any more. The car is either good out of the box or the season is wasted. Ferrari need to start from scratch with their engine (as their current one is rubbish), just like Honda. Honda, like the rest have been shown how to do it by Mercedes so McLaren Honda will be in the same position as Ferrari. Oh and last time Ferrari were WDC winners their engine designer was ex-Honda. Pete
And he nearly took 2003 (by 1 point) in a much slower Mclaren against Schumacher. 2005 was also reliability. In 2007, had his car not gone wrong more times that the others, he still would've been champion. Perhaps then more deservedly because he would have taken them by more points?
I sure hope this istrue...finally Ferrari will star wining again after the cheating snake is gone!!! Oh, and bring the Hulk, the guy is seriously good!!! I very much doubt Merc will drop Nico, he is as good as hami, they have a good relationship and he is german...can't see any reason to drop him....
Re the Sulk - You must be watching a different sport in a parallel universe! According to the current standings, he's 4th in the WDC rankings behind the 2 mercs and Fred, above both the Bulls and has twice the points of his team mate. Hardly the mark of man that achieves absolutely nothing Comparing him to Massa and Weber is a cheap shot and hardly credible.
Okay, Osamu Goto designed the first v10 engine for Ferrari then which was an important part of them becoming successful. Ferrari were stuck with the v12 that required too much cooling and used too much fuel ... Honda have made very few poor F1 engines ... made some cr@p cars though Pete
Goto was the one who found why v12s where blowing like grenades.....THERE WAS SOME DESIGN OR BUILDING FLAW, SOMETHING MINIMAL (i can't recall what) and he found it and solved it....a great asset for the ream...but martinelli was the man behind Shummy titles, suplying the very best and more reliable engines in the field...
I can't say i wont be surprised if this really happens...Fred in my opinion, is starting to look jaded in Ferrari...
Oh well my memory is obviously fading. I thought it took an outsider to shake their insistence on v12s but obviously wrong ... If I was Alonso I'd make the move though. He's given it his best shot and can leave proudly. Pete
That would be incredible but alas thats extremely wishful thinking to say the least. As for alonso, it appears hes definitely gone. Luca has been seen talking more and more with kimi and less with alonso. I predict mercedes despite hamilton being there. If he locks up another championship this year he wont feel as mch pressure next year driving alongside alonso. Mclaren seemed possible until ron dennis returned.
Actually, V12s were not so unsuited for those rules as they thought in the mid 90s. I´ve already told this but seems that you can´t remember it either, so I´ll tell it again: after Ferrari won with V10s, they started to design a new V12. Toyota initially planned to enter F1 with a V12, and it´s rumoured that BMW was working in one too. So obviously there was some advantages in the V12 over the V10. Later FIA, fearing the quite obvious costs of the switch from V10s to V12s, banned anything with more than 10 cylinders, and that´s the end of the story. That was a royal pain in the a$$ for Toyota as they had to delay their F1 debut one year and pay a fine for not entering their cars when they were supposed to do it. Probably Alonso thinks the same thing, but if he can secure a drive at Mercedes, or maybe Red Bull, he has nowhere to go. McLaren-Honda needs 3 or 4 years to deliver and he´s too old to wait for so long for something that maybe is never going to happen. And the rest of the teams are in the verge of bankruptcy.
Perhaps Red Bull knows they have a package "ripe" for an experienced driver. A package that is ready to be taken to the next level with a "development driver" that has experience taking a chassis to "the next level". There is only 1 driver that can take a "good" package and make it "great". That driver is Fernando Alonso. Fernando did his time, gave all he could. The Scuderia could not deliver. It is time he invested his time into a team that can deliver and get him his deserved WDCs. I will be sad to see him leave the Scuderia, but they failed to capitalize on his participation. Their loss!
