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A few questions.

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  1. OUMick

    OUMick Formula 3

    Apr 26, 2014
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    I am having a 2000 360 Modena going through a PPI this week. I've read a lot and talked to a few of you on here. The car has 18k miles. They are doing a belt service before I purchase the car. The vent things on the fuel system have been replaced. We are checking on the cam variators.

    The VIN # is ZFFYU51A9Y0119996. Some of you guys seem like private investigators. Have fun with it.

    Now for the questions:
    1. Is there any f1 issues that should have been changed?
    2. Is there any other really big known issues for these models that need to be looked at?
    3. The owners manual says to replace airbags at 10 years. Does anyone do this?
    4. What type of clutch life would be acceptable to find in the ppi?
    5. Should the brake life be determined in this process?

    Thanks for the help. Hopefully in the next 1-2 weeks I'll posting pics of my 1st Ferrari.



    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    1/2 - read buyers guide
    3 - no
    4 - ppi could show up to 120 % wear - there is no hard and fast answer
    5 - no
     
  3. BrettC

    BrettC Formula 3

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    Well, they can tell you what is left on the brake pads which is helpful...clutch...eh...how much is left will tell how long you've got till a clutch replacement...airbags...no way unless there's a problem...have 10k in reserve, expect to maybe spend it and drive it like you stole it...wine tasting in Livermore today..had a great drive back through the back roads...such a sweet car...buy it!!!
     
  4. whatheheck

    whatheheck F1 Rookie
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    My 2003 360 Spider only had 10K miles when I bought it 2 months ago.

    Clutch life wear reading was at 50% which was OK with me.
    Brake pads was due for replacement so the seller had that done before I bought it.

    Just keep in mind that the car/ my car is over 10 years old so expect to,replace things as they age.

    First month of ownership the right fuel pump failed and it started leaking fuel. Cost to remove and replace at the dealership was $2,500.00.

    I asked the dealer to flush all the fluids to start fresh. This is equivalent to 2 year service.
    Cost $2,000.00.

    3 weeks ago luggage compartment warning sign came on, then wipers quit working.
    Luggage compartment latch mechanism failed. Cost to replace $425.00.

    Although these cars are very expensive to repair and maintain the smile it puts in my face every time I drive is priceless. I love my 360. Best car I ever driven and owned.

    Good luck to you! Kindly post info and photos once you get your 360

    Dan
     
  5. Need4Spd

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    A couple of friends had their heat exchangers fail and the result was cross-contamination of the gearbox fluid. One resulted in outright transmission failure. The other didn't have the same result but getting all of the coolant out of the gearbox and transmission lines was really, really time-consuming. I recently had heat exchanger replaced as a preventive measure, but the unit that came out of my car didn't look all that bad. I suspect most failures occur due to failure to renew the coolant. I change mine every year and many change it at least every other year. Other known possible disaster points are pre-cats and variators that might fail. Both are relatively rare.
     
  6. 993man

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    I asked the dealer to flush all the fluids to start fresh. This is equivalent to 2 year service.
    Cost $2,000.00.

    What? $2000 for that flush? Really?
    I find that so over the top that it's not even funny.
    But that's just me and maybe I'm a real tight wad.

    To the OP, my car is almost identical in mileage and age. Had it almost 2 years and the clutch was at 11% when I bought it, it's now 23%. I have done 8000 k's.
    Only problem has been an on going CEL, but we think that's sorted now. Throttle sensor failure. I'm changing it this weekend. Cost $550NZ.

    These are great cars and everyone knows the 99 and 2000 models are the best.
     
  7. whatheheck

    whatheheck F1 Rookie
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    Excellent information. Things to watch out for. Thank you!

    Wife and I are leaving Orvieto now heading to Maranello to visit Ferrari Museum. About a 4 hour drive. My 2nd time to the F museum. Can't wait!

    Dan
     
  8. 993man

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    Jeeze Dan, that sounds awesome!

    I'm going to the Rugby World Cup next year in the UK, and I am making the effort to get to Maranello. I want to go to the factory and museum if I can.

    Have a great time and take some pics will ya.
    Good man :)
     
  9. English Rebel

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    I guess this is not the one at Sport Auto as that had the belt service 2k miles ago.
    Alan
     
  10. OUMick

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    Yes it is. The service was done a few years ago.
     
  11. English Rebel

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    Hmm said 3K so the previous owner only put on 1K a year. Are FCI doing the PPI? I had mine done there and it was $550 with a compression check.
    Glad you got what you wanted and Steve is a great guy to deal with. When do you pick it up?
    Alan
     
  12. OUMick

    OUMick Formula 3

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    No Tom is doing the PPI. I talked to Karl in Charleston. He said he would have Tom do it. Tom is doing a belt change and we are replacing the wheels. Will probably be a week or two before we pick it up.
     
  13. whatheheck

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    We always have options.
    We can take our car to a reputable Independent mechanic to save money.
    In my case, the closest one is 2 hour drive away which means my wife will have to drive and follow me so she can take me home as they need the car for 2 days. Then she will have to drive me there again to pick up my car once it's done. Too much hassle.

    Or We/I can do the work myself but I currently don't have the time as I work 10-12 hours a day. So I just took my car to the dealer and ate the high cost. They did a great job, gave me a loaner car for 3 days and they warranty their work for 2 years.

    Dan
     
  14. whatheheck

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    Hi Graham. Wife and I are now here in Florence.

    The drive from Rome to Modena was awesome. Beautiful scenery and I was averaging ~105mph. The roads were wide open as people here know how to drive (they pull over to the right as soon as they pass other cars) and there were no cops on the roads.

    Ferrari museum was great. Lots of their cars on display. I have all my photos still in my DSLR. I will post some for sharing once I get back home to Seattle.

    You will have a fun time too I am sure when you come here to visit
    Thanks!

    Dan
     
  15. Kevin Rev'n

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    Awesome Dan, can't wait to hear your tales and see pictures. !!!
     
  16. 993man

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    Same. Really looking forward to seeing some pictures.
    Florence is a very nice city and the markets are great fun.
    No matter how good the deal was we got on anything, we paid too much!

    Love Italy!
     
  17. English Rebel

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    I spent a very cold January weekend in Bologna back in 1995. Had to listen to a French couple in the next room making a little -- albeit noisy romanticismo. Unfortunately due to business didn't get chance to tour the Lamborghini factory but did have a very nice meal at a local mom and pop restaurant.
    Alan
     
  18. toil

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    I see you're from nz. I am also from nz and thinking about buying a ferrari soon. Are the cost of parts (replacement clutches etc) and services etc similar to the cost
    In the usa? (I.e say a clutch costs 3k in the US to replace do you simply
    Convert that amount into nzd and that's the correct figure roughly) or is it more? I have a feeling nz would be more expensive

    Many thanks
     
  19. 88Testarossa

    88Testarossa Formula 3

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    Graham, why are the 1999-2000 models more desirable?

    Thanks


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  20. Mozella

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    Those cops you didn't see may very well have photos of YOU in their DSLRs.

    Unfortunately it seems as though our autovelox (speed cameras) are everywhere these days. I've never seen a speed trap where the police clock you and then stop you up the road or try to chase you down. But there are plenty of fixed speed cameras and mobile cameras as well. They are pretty effective and I've got the bank account debit entries to prove it.

    If you rented a car and if you got caught by one of our cameras, expect them to eventually catch up to you. And don't celebrate too quickly. It may take a year or so to get the bad news.

    Some possibilities include (from worst to best case);
    1) your name is put on a list, once you try and clear customs anywhere in the EU you are stopped and forced to pay a huge fine
    2) your name is only put on some list in Italy and you are required to pay this fine before you enter through Italy, if you go through customs or some other "official way"
    3) After not paying, and the ticket being reissued to you by the Italian authorities, the polizia go back to the rental car company to collect. Your name is given to some international debt collection agency that finds a way to make life for you in your home country worse - maybe they actually find a way to garnish wages or hurt your credit score. The rental car agreement is pretty rock solid if you ask me. I received a copy of it and it pretty explicitly says - and has me sign - that I agree to pay any fines.
    4) After not paying, you are on a blacklist for renting a car anywhere in the EU.
    5) After not paying, you are on a blacklist for only the car company you screwed over
    6) You have a warrant put out for you in the EU, but since no one really runs your name ever, and its for a speeding ticket - you only ever run into a problem when you say....report your passport stolen, and then it becomes a case of a "criminal" turning himself in. The police laugh at you for this, and make you pay a huge fine.
    7) Nothing happens

    Cross your fingers and hope for number seven.
     
  21. English Rebel

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    My friend in England got one of those speed camera tickets in the mail. The thing was he was working in Austria at the time and he drove his car there. Apparently someone had a license plate made with his number on. It took him over a year to convince the authorities that it was not his car. Not many fixed speed cameras would survive over here as that is what a 357 magnum is for. :)
    Alan
     
  22. whatheheck

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    Thanks for the info. Sincerely appreciated.

     

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