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LaFerrari Review Thread

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by MisterMaranello, Apr 29, 2014.

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  1. Mark ANTAR

    Mark ANTAR Formula Junior

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    "Gimmicky" is not the right word to use when LMP1 and F1 cars have that feature too. You have the choice to either use it or let the car do the work for you. It's called an option.
     
  2. PowerSlide

    PowerSlide Formula 3

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    in LMP1 and F1 it's a feature to spice up the show and for strategy cause they are in a race but we are talking about road cars

    the person wrote this got a point
     
  3. Mark ANTAR

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    He has got a point, but you can look at it from different perspectives. A lot of potential customers who have driven the car were surprised by how fun it was to use IPAS manually. It gives a sudden kick in the neck when you press it. It's like launching the car from 0-60 all over again.
     
  4. vlad0

    vlad0 Karting

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    You could tweet the author @chrischiltoncar
     
  5. Mark ANTAR

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    You quoted him and you seemed to agree with what he said, so what I wrote was directed at you. :) Unless if he was reading this thread, I have zero interest in changing his opinion.
     
  6. REALZEUS

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    2014 cars don't have that. Anyway, the Ferrari does that with the throttle pedal.
     
  7. AlexKlimt

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  8. MisterMaranello

    MisterMaranello F1 Rookie

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    Indeed it is gimmicky because it's completely unnecessary and a totally weird gadget. The P1 is not a race car!

    You could mount a full-on fighter jet HUD display in a car - it would still be a gimmick, even though you can find the equivalent in a real F-16.
     
  9. Mark ANTAR

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    The fact that owners have the option to operate it manually is a good thing, no matter how you spin it. Owners have showed satisfaction from the feature and it completely makes sense.

    LaFerrari probably doesn't have a KERS function due to its relatively smaller battery.
     
  10. MisterMaranello

    MisterMaranello F1 Rookie

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    And it doesn't need it either because LaF owners use a little pedal on the floor that you operate with your right foot. In case you are unfamiliar with the concept - you push the pedal to go faster. If you for instance want to overtake a car, you push to pedal with your right foot until the car gains adequate speed. The pedal travel can vary, but for maximum speed it's possible to push it nearly all the way down to the floor.

    McLaren are trying to replace the last bit of pedal travel with a button distractingly placed on the steering wheel? No, that does not make sense. I get the DRS button, but not the IPAS.
     
  11. AlexKlimt

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    KERS button has a sense in F1 because of limited use.
    It's poorly thought for a car that is freely designed and can be freely used.
     
  12. Chicko

    Chicko Formula 3


    As of 2014, F1 cars no longer have KERS buttons.
     
  13. Mark ANTAR

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    As if I don't know. :rolleyes:

    McLaren have included it because it enhances the driving experience and not for overtaking. For the best result on a track, the car can do it all for you, just like the 918 and LaFerrari.
     
  14. Mark ANTAR

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    They can use an over-boost button to deplete the battery faster than usual. But its purpose on P1 is totally different and it's there because it makes going in a straight line more exciting and a lot of fun. ;)
     
  15. REALZEUS

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    No they have a rotary dial that selects the level of discharge, but not a "boost" button.
    What the P1 does, is exactly what the others do with the throttle pedal, instead of a meaningless boost button.
     
  16. Mark ANTAR

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    Same function. That's what I meant.

    And what everyone seem to be ignoring is that it can also do it with the throttle pedal.
     
  17. xku807

    xku807 Formula Junior

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    Exactly why some people find the IPAS button gimmicky Mark :).
     
  18. MisterMaranello

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    #594 MisterMaranello, May 24, 2014
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    Exactly.

    I found this definition of gimmick which I found quite appropriate:

    Now, do you understand why IPAS is a gimmick? It's a redudant and useless feature.

    But I have a question; if you are at full throttle in say third gear or above, will the activation of IPAS have any effect? Does McLaren "hide" extra power (even under 100% throttle load) for the IPAS function?
     
  19. Mark ANTAR

    Mark ANTAR Formula Junior

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    IPAS is always working in Sport, Track or Race mode unless you press the 'Boost' button on the center console which will then make IPAS available at the press of a button in any of the car's driving modes.
     
  20. MisterMaranello

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    So by pressing the BOOST button, you limit the car's maximum power for there to be extra power available when you push the IPAS button?
     
  21. GTE

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    so...how is this not gimmicky?
     
  22. Mark ANTAR

    Mark ANTAR Formula Junior

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    You only need 903hp on the straights and that's where IPAS comes into play. You can press it to get full power when you're nearly full throttle. It's actually a pretty fun feature and professional drivers might be able to use it more efficiently rather than letting the car do it for them.
     
  23. Mbn

    Mbn Formula Junior

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    This.

    I will try and post a manual picture tommorw, so you guys get the fully picture about Mark explanation.

    Mbn
     
  24. xku807

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    And post pictures of your P1 as well please.
     

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