Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Is there a planned statement regarding the additional cars? (Since you are implying we will know more about this today or tomorrow)

Could this be what LdM meant when he said he had something planned for the clients that initially missed out on LaF, or am I taking that too far out of context?

 

Actually porsche sti mate 10 to 15 seconds off the ring record BEFORE I heard about tyres ,I pposted the 10/15 seconds months ago . So it's even less time on the new cups ...


As for the battery thing there are many possible reasons . It's certainly never happened in any other review ( including my drive ) The most likely is car is a prototype or user error . If you have previously depleted the battery with e driving you need to do a lap or two to get the power back up , only then you can go flat out . In fact if you watch one of the recent videos the driver says something like " the more laps you do the more power you have ) . Even with the hot lap mode you can switch between modes to get even more boost and different characteristics when driving . Apparently even lieb mad e errors on the record lap ( that's where some of the extra lap time comes from ). You will have to drive these cars absolutely foot to the floor in the same mode round and round somewhere like nardo to fully deplete power in my experience . The cars are not foolproof though . Laps I did at Leipzig and Spain I went in with more power than I started with but the battery cannot be very depleted by e driving . That's why the 918 and p1 don't really need to be plugged in if you know how to drive them .

 

I really don't know I just showed real interest buying one and I'm counting on this to squeeze more informations.

Besides I did got few calls to visit but it could be just offers for something else.

Mbn

 

That's my understanding, hence why it's being leaked by drip feed to current customers so as to break the news gently. As a long time customer waiting for mine next year, I'm not too happy about increased volumes but it's not the first time they've done it.

 

Thanks guys. I'll seek more info regarding this the next few days. A very interesting development...

 

This is pure speculation and contrary to what Ferrari states.

 

Comparing the driving skills of Hammond to Sutcliffe and Harris is just a bit far fetched...

Sutcliffe has in this case lost all credibilty as a result of his P1 rambling and escapades.

 

Point taken.

I was generalizing to make a point (that these guys are all better drivers than most owners will be), who drove the cars hard, and didn't deplete the battery. I also did mention the Autoexpress writer (who's a very good driver as well), and HVS at AMS, who didn't deplete the batteries either.

More importantly, I separated most of those guys from the likes of Pobst, Mark Lieb, etc, who could effect the batteries. Most owners aren't driving like them, at their skill level, hell bent on attempting to set lofty track records.

Yes, SS has lost all credibility indeed it appears.

 

+1

 

I certainly hope a gentleman like Mbn can get to own a LaF.

But to do so Ferrari will have to void their statement "for 499 loyal customers only".

The 499 loyal Ferrari customers like Mr Furlong will have a right to sue if the number climbs up to 650 .

For decreasing the resale value and rarity.

So maybe it's for 499 loyal Ferrari customers...

... And 151 disloyal VIP customers who buys Bugattis, Paganis, P1s etc.

Lol. Just kidding.

Seriously Ferrari will never do that.

They may make a handful more, but not 151 more.

My guess is Ferrari is offering Mbn a LaFXX or something else, not exactly a LaF.

Hopefully Mbn can keep us posted.

 

I certainly hope a gentleman like Mbn can get to own a LaF.

But to do so Ferrari will have to void their statement "for 499 loyal customers only".

The 499 loyal Ferrari customers like Mr Furlong will have a right to sue if the number climbs up to 650 .

For decreasing the resale value and rarity.

So maybe it's for 499 loyal Ferrari customers...

... And 151 disloyal VIP customers who buys Bugattis, Paganis, P1s etc.

Lol. Just kidding.

Seriously Ferrari will never do that.

They may make a handful more, but not 151 more.

My guess is Ferrari is offering Mbn a LaFXX or something else, not exactly a LaF.

Hopefully Mbn can keep us posted.

 

Just for fun, bottom of page, post #40 Speculation 1 - 5 ....

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/288gto-f40-f50-enzo-laferrari/440600-new-special-ferrari-2.html

 

Well they did make nearly a 100 post-production Enzo's didn't they? XX is still something like four years away.

With LaF, they had more than 499 clients meeting the criteria for purchasing the car. In their recent 5 year plan presentation is states they had a 200% order quota, but I believe LdM said in Geneva that they had around 700 written commitments to purchase a LaF. If they decide to build ~150 one more cars (remember this is still a rumour and we are speculating) my guess is that a majority of the cars will go to those qualified clients who missed out. The most interesting part of this rumour for me is whether it is an extension of the production run or a planned post-production.

 

I didnt know they made an extra 100 Enzos.

They made only about 30 Enzo Fxx.

I'm quite aware they have a lot of people who still want the laF, I believe LDM said about 200, after the 499 was sold out. 200 X 1.5M = 300M . 200 qualified wealthy buyers who said : what about me?

But how will the 499 customers feel?

 

201 !
Lol

 

You want one too? WtDoom?

 

They apparently made more than 500 Enzos so it's possible that there will be an extra 100+ LF made..
Also, if Mbn doesnt get an LF, it's unlikely Ferrari will offer a LaFXX as these will go to Corse Clienti first, then LF owners.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKV6bAjBBsw

 

So you mean Ferrari is lying then?

LaFerrari: passion, technology, futuristic design and exclusivity

" of which only 499 examples will be built and more than twice the number of requests has already been received "

I remember the official LaFerrari webpage had at the center of the screen BIG words: for 499 special customers only...

 

Looks really good there. Too bad it doesn't have the weissach wheels.

 

They said the same thing about the Enzo. Same about the 599 GTO, he'll even the F40 was first limited to 400.

 

They should be grateful for the fact that they have the privelige of owning such a unique car, instead of focusing on being bitter because there may be a few more lucky individuals who will share their joy of ownership.

Ferrari isn't lying - welcome to the automotive world. Post-production cars and increased "limited" production runs are commonplace. They said they would make <30 599XX, yet there are at least 39 in existense. So what? If you can afford the car, you can afford the potential minute loss in appreciation due to an increased production run. (For the record - I have not seen any qualified source, historian or expert explicitly state that the post-production Enzo's have diluted the value of the original 399.)

More cars doesn't make the product any worse, it only makes it more accessible.

 

Guys it's just a rumor I myself have no idea what going on.

It could be a 458 or an FF offer great cars but I'll be disappointed not getting a laferrari lol.

But some Laferrari owners we'll be happy since they won't produce more so I'll be happy for them too.

Its a car after all.

Mbn

 

Okay, I know what's going on.

Mbn just got a call from LDM :
"Mbn, we'll build you a LaF, but you can't tell everybody on the internet about it!"

 

Perhaps it isn't lying if everyone already knows it's bull****?

I am a qualified expert, and the extra Enzos have diluted the value.

Nobody is loudly complaining because they enjoy their cars which still appreciate, and if they bark too loudly they might get crossed off the list for the next car.

If they made 10,000 enzos, much of what the product is would be diminished.