Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

ok, I think I misunderstood what Andrew was asking: whether or not you can immediately drive off using petrol engine, instead of whether or not you can fire it up with turn of the key. in the Slatan Ib vid, he drives off using emotors first and then the petrol kicks in when he floors it (he is in default E-power mode). cars and coffee video is not clear on this procedure. but I think it hardly matters in the end. this is how I understood it, from what I was told.

when you turn the key, the car 'starts' into E-power mode, which means you can then drive off in silence using e motors only (then floor pedal to fire up petrol engine).

however, after you start the car and it enters in E-power, you can then turn the small dial on the steering wheel into Sport-Hybrid or Race-hybrid and the petrol motor will start up, and then you can immediately drive off with that engine screaming.

so essentially it just requires just one more step. instead of turn the key = petrol fires up
you have to turn key + turn dial = petrol fires up. to me that is 2 step equivalent to turn key + push start button on a Ferrari (or any of gazillion other cars out there with start buttons)...even though technically the 918 is already 'started' with key. still not sure if it can be set up to start petrol engine immediately on key turn...but that hardly matters in my opinion as you can immediately fire up the engine. Doom?

 

Wouldn't surprise me if you could drive it like a golf cart once you switch the power on.

Andrew did seem to be asking a different question.

>8^)
ER

 

Yes, i wanted to know if you could start it with the petrol engine, to have that cold start sound that is awesome on some cars (Enzo for example). Thanks Erik.

 

If you mean the whirring of the starter and then the engine burbling, then no. this clip clearly show's the procedure. forward to 13:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaOfgevPphk

 

Before this skepticism grows too many legs, Mbn's claims are legit - I can vouch for him, no need to worry.

>8^)
ER

 

You've met him?

 

Can see a p1 and laf next to each other and a lot more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf3KNEPgpsk

 

wasnt chris harris supposed to come out with his laferrari review right around now?

 

No, but someone at McLaren told him just after the P1's lap time and before revealing Elvis is still alive. "One for the money, two for the show ..."

 

Chris Harris' LaFerrari review: Ferrari LaFerrari: Review - PistonHeads

 

"The Ferrari is the more straightforward personality, in many ways the more complete product ...
[P1] can't match the Ferrari's perfect sounds, nor to my eyes its unfussy beauty."

LaF: a complete and beautiful supercar, with great sound and "with a soul".
P1: an ugly E.T. object.

 

How about this?

"The steering wheel is a visual abomination"

"The ABS fizzes and somehow you lose 120mph before turn one. After four fast laps they were very hot and very smelly, but pedal was still there. What I will say is that they lack the same sense of sheer omnipotence the P1's Akebono brakes offer - the McLaren feels like it brakes harder and would do so for longer before overheating the rotors. "

"The P1's shape-shifting Track mode is also unmatched by the Ferrari."

"With all of its trickery deployed, I don't doubt that the British car would be the faster of the two over pretty much any given lap."

"And despite this, the P1 feels even less like it belongs to this planet than either. The styling is even more outrageous, the extended wings are madness and it can probably do things on track that lift it to another level."

Conclusions:

LaFerrari - "The terminally cynical will probably be amused to learn that Ferrari's hypercar feels sensational around Ferrari's home circuit. But it's a superbly finished product with an operating window much wider than I'd expected. It is everything a limited series car from Maranello should be; that it happens to use electricity is immaterial because it is untraceable other than in ways which make your smile even broader. I'd like one on black."

P1 - "But we need to end with some choice hyperbole, right? That's the way this stuff works, isn't it? Okay, here goes. The P1 is the bestest, fastest, most exciting car sports/super/hypercar I've driven. Nothing else comes close."

 

He also said:
"The first time you run it full beans in third gear, with the vague sensation that the front wheels want to lift off the ground, you concur that this is one of the most outrageous cars ever made. A Veyron is sliced-white by comparison. And despite this, the P1 feels even less like it belongs to this planet than either. The styling is even more outrageous, the extended wings are madness and it can probably do things on track that lift it to another level. It can't match the Ferrari's perfect sounds, nor to my eyes its unfussy beauty. And it isn't a Ferrari, which to many people will mean it loses from the start."


"The P1's shape-shifting Track mode is also unmatched by the Ferrari. Further emphasising its role as a simple driving device it doesn't have an answer to the McLaren's crazy drop in ride height and massive aero increase. With all of its trickery deployed, I don't doubt that the British car would be the faster of the two over pretty much any given lap. Yes, the Ferrari's active aero is constantly working on the front and rear bodywork, but its influence on downforce is far less than on the British car's."

"After four fast laps they were very hot and very smelly, but pedal was still there. What I will say is that they lack the same sense of sheer omnipotence the P1's Akebono brakes offer - the McLaren feels like it brakes harder and would do so for longer before overheating the rotors. But you'd need to run a back-to-back to prove as much."

 

Aw mark got there first and said it better than me. Still let us not forget that the Ferrari has a "soul"

 

Alex, I'm not ashamed to admit that, had I the chance to choose all over again, I'd have gone for the P1. As in everything at whatever price level, it's how you personally see it and what it makes you feel like. Case in point, this CH test. You love sensual screamers. Me too. For one night. I love intellectuals who are great at everything for a meaningful, long term relationship...get my drift? I'll still love my hot Italian though, just wished I could've put a ring on the P1's finger.

 

First parapgraph is not his conclusion about LAF but a remark concerning people like you.
I didn't find the second paragraph.

"A more complete product" than P1, greater sound and more beautiful. For the track we'll wait real comparisons, Mclaren being broken promisies specialist.

 

Now, I'm not sure if this is the most shocking post in this thread, or am I reading it right.

Mr R.F., are you saying you would've have gone for a P1 in addition to the LaF you have coming in?

Or that if you have to choose, you'd choose the P1 over the LaF?

The LaF is much harder to get.

 

Did you finish reading the sentence?

"the more complete product because it feels like a very fast version of a normal series production Ferrari."

The second paragraph is from the P1 review: McLaren P1: Driven - PistonHeads

 

A "more complete product" would fit your needs better, no?
How do you read this - "a more complete product"?
For me it's the exact definition of what you are searching: a long term relationship friend.

 

I doubt he wants a product that "feels like a very fast version of a normal series production Ferrari."

 

"More complete product" because of what you want but more complete product than P1.

The second paragraph has been written in an other review before this LAF test. To post this as a definitive CH conclusion is intellectually dishonnest.
The fact that CH is not as emphatic now should force you being more careful in your comments on what others try to say.

I was sure about your definitive CH review interpretation, consider my posts as traps for reactions like yours.

 

The LaFerrari customer already has several Ferrari models so why would he be unhappy with more of the same only faster?

 

I do not know what he wants. But if he's searching an uggly object for track, perhaps the P1 is a better choice, having said that a road car cannot compete with true track cars.

The problem is not what he -or others- wants.
The problem is how you deal with informations and reviews. In not a very honnest way, my opinion. Sorry.

CH is less definitive than what you think.

 

Of course.

It seems -reading last reviews- the Laf is THE Car. Homogeneous and complete.
P1 is an ET Thing with an overboost button.