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Transmission noise question

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by rlips, Mar 20, 2014.

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  1. rlips

    rlips Formula Junior

    Jul 29, 2011
    959
    New Jersey, USA
    I seem to have developed a sort of slip/whine noise under hard upshifts. Strangely, it doesn't do this under race mode, only under sport mode.


    I will have to bring it to the dealer, but, via discussion, they said it could be the serpentine belt slipping under load. The explanation was that under hard acceleration, when the car shifts, the engine has so much compression that it slows quickly enough to slip the serpentine belt. The reason (they think) it does not do that in race mode is that the shifts happen so fast that the engine doesn't have enough time to drop rev/torque.

    The car needs to go in next month for annual service, they will address it then. Shifts feel fine, and it's only under full throttle upshifts in sport mode.

    Just curious, anyone else here ever have this issue?

    Thanks,

    Ron
     
  2. otis

    otis Karting

    Mar 5, 2011
    70
    Mpls
    Mine does it too. My dealer has the car right now and is looking into it. I told them it sounds like the belt slipping under hard acceleration during up shifts. Mine did it in race and sport modes. Doesn't feel like a transmission issue to me. The car drove and accelerated normally. I was out on a cold 45-50 degree day driving it pretty hard. Hope it's nothing more than a slipping serpentine belt.

    Otis
     
  3. rlips

    rlips Formula Junior

    Jul 29, 2011
    959
    New Jersey, USA
    Thanks, I should also note the temperatures are also 45-50. Didn't notice this in warmer weather. Wonder if colder temps are a factor.
     
  4. otis

    otis Karting

    Mar 5, 2011
    70
    Mpls
    I'd bet so. Will post if they find anything. I bet the belt tensioner needs a twist or two.

    Otis
     
  5. maomaoferrari

    maomaoferrari Karting

    Jan 23, 2004
    148
    First really warm day to take the car out and drive somewhat hard. Did a 1st 2nd 3rd run to almost redline. A small chrip is heard on each upshift. Not sure if its the tires or the problem as described above. Tire temp about 40c, road temp about 20c, car fully warmed up, in sport mode. Have a track day soon and will try to get a better sense of it. Good thing the local service center is right at the track.

    G

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  6. colonels

    colonels Formula Junior

    Aug 5, 2011
    877
    2013 spider here, also does same thing under hard acceleration. 2000 miles. thought it was normal? it's just a noise the acceleration doesn't seem to slip.

    originally i thought it could have been some air intake gulping
     
  7. Shack

    Shack F1 Rookie
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    May 2, 2005
    2,616
    Earth
    Have this "chirp" on mine. Dealer told me its been done "on purpose" - as a feature. Keen to know if this is BS or real?
     
  8. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jul 3, 2006
    27,855
    Aspen CO 81611
    Full Name:
    FelipeNotMassa
    My 458 has almost 13k miles and does not do this. When I go in for my annual service in June I will ask to see why I am missing the "chirp". :cool:

    Best
     
  9. Shack

    Shack F1 Rookie
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    May 2, 2005
    2,616
    Earth
    I think it was only on certain model years. Mine is 2011 car
     
  10. maomaoferrari

    maomaoferrari Karting

    Jan 23, 2004
    148
    mine is a 2013. The car pulls and drives normal, so maybe it is just a mechanical noise that is "normal". I drive the car almost daily but very little chance to do hard redline shifts, will have to wait for the track day to better feel it.
     
  11. pride355

    pride355 Formula Junior

    Apr 16, 2006
    388
    Istanbul/Turkey
    Full Name:
    MOT
    I have the same issue on with my 13 model italia. Service told me that it is normal. I have the noise both in RACE and SPORT mode but it is more pronounced in SPORT mode.
     
  12. APC123

    APC123 Karting

    Mar 24, 2013
    192
    New England
    I have only noticed this in the colder weather. I was wondering the same thing. Service next month.
     
  13. DoctorWill

    DoctorWill Formula Junior

    Jun 12, 2010
    761
    Playa Vista
    Full Name:
    Will
    I had a nightmare about the 458 transmission issue last night......it was so vivid that I almost called the dealer this morning!


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  14. maomaoferrari

    maomaoferrari Karting

    Jan 23, 2004
    148
    while on my way to the dealer this morning to drop off the car for the installation of the data logger, the check engine light came on just 2 mins from the dealership, what perfect timing. Not sure what's the cause, but picking up the car in a couple of days, will find out.
     
  15. rlips

    rlips Formula Junior

    Jul 29, 2011
    959
    New Jersey, USA
    Not sure I could agree it is normal, I have had the car for a year now (about 4K miles) and this noise only started in January.

    It wasn't there before, now it is. Something has changed.
     
  16. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

    Nov 7, 2011
    6,114
    Three Places
    That's funny. Ferrari service department as psychoanalyst of dreams.

    BTW my August 2010 build made a chirp once in a 1-2 shift. It was some time ago. I have not heard it since.
     
  17. otis

    otis Karting

    Mar 5, 2011
    70
    Mpls
    They changed my accessory belt and it's all gone.

    Otis
     
  18. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Jun 11, 2013
    11,604
    Good to know- thank you for the update.
     
  19. rlips

    rlips Formula Junior

    Jul 29, 2011
    959
    New Jersey, USA
    Mine is going in next week for the belt change as well.
     
  20. rlips

    rlips Formula Junior

    Jul 29, 2011
    959
    New Jersey, USA
    Update:

    Car received new accessory belt today, noise all gone.

    Ron
     
  21. mel458

    mel458 Rookie

    Dec 17, 2014
    1
    hi ron, i had same belt nosie befor,and today i just change a new belt,

    but when i hard push the car still have a little bit noise on race mode,but alot better than befor,
    the dealer says it need a bit time to dissapear,is this same on yours ?after you change belt it is gone street away or take your a while,thanks
     

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