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Newey to Ferrari...not sure yet

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  1. NeuroBeaker

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    I don't think Newey would go to Italy for any price. He's already where he wants to live and working with a design team he heads and built. I don't think money is going to motivate him to move when he's presumably already well compensated by Red Bull Racing.

    The only cause for concern is that crap Renault power unit. However, I think Red Bull Racing would manufacture their own engine before they let Newey escape into the clutches of Ferrari.

    I'd like to see Newey with the Scuderia, but can't see it ever happening.

    All the best,
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  2. kraftwerk

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    Yes I tend to agree with that, IIRC Newey has stated a few times that he wouldn't want to live or work in Italy...it's his choice, but personally I love the food ..;)
     
  3. Chicko

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    Has anyone ever heard of Newey owning any Ferrari's? I know he has a collection of 1960's GT road and race cars that he competes in (GT40, Lightweight Jaguars, Lotus's).

    I have never heard of him owning any Ferrari's, and have always had the impression that he has always seen Ferrari as the enemy in his professional and amateur racing.
     
  4. DeSoto

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    I´ve read that he owns a Berlinetta Boxer.
     
  5. Ferraripilot

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    There's the answer. Newey has everything he wants at red bull except now he has to design a car with a clown car engine. Renault are behind the times in terms to hybrid development compared to anyone else on the field. Red Bull employees had to fix Renault's problem and that's definitely not an issue you want to have when you are a top team. You want your power unti manufacturer to know more about how to work and fix their engine than your own team!

    I'm certain he knows good and well that anyone making an engine has more capability than Renault in terms of hybrid development which is where the future lies. Ferrari would be best for him IMO, with Williams being next best, if he can deal with Pat...
     
  6. Ferraripilot

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    I think he actually owns Button's former BB
     
  7. furoni

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    It's no wonder that Alonso is desperate to leave (and don't doubt that he's desperate to leave....).[/QUOTE]

    .....no more than i am desperate to see him go....
     
  8. Bas

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    He's also done Le Mans in a 430 GT2 :).
    Cool!

    Newey to Ferrari
    Alonso to Mclaren
    Button to Red Bull
    Vettel to Ferrari and wins 4 more titles ;)
    You and me both...:)
     
  9. intrepidcva11

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    #34 intrepidcva11, May 29, 2014
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    Despite his four consecutive WDC's, I am far from persuaded that Sebastien is the 'head-and-shoulders-better' driver that many believe he is. To me it is absolutely clear that for four years he was driving a car that was indeed 'head-and-shoulders' better than any other car on the grid.

    Mark Webber, a journeyman middle of the pack driver his entire pre-Red Bull career, suddenly is on the front row almost every race? Webber, a really good guy but only a fair driver, begins in F1 in 2002 age 26, racing for such mediocre teams as Minardi and Jaguar. When he joins Williams he is a little bit better than middle pack but nowhere near a consistent challenger. Then he joins RedBull in 2007 at age 31 still racing just above middle of pack for a couple of years as the car is improving.

    Comes 2009 and Sebastien Vettel joins Red Bull and a dramatically improved car. At age 33 after racing in F1 for seven years Mark finally wins his first F1 race, the 2009 German GP and his second, the Brazilian G.P. Comes 2010 and an utterly dominant Red Bull car and what have we in Mark Webber? - four F! wins, five poles (OVER VETTEL!) AND TEN PODIUMS!! He actually led the drivers' championship after Monaco and could have been 2010 World Champion if je had won the lawst race at Abu Dhabi and Fernando had finished no higher than third! This from a guy who had never been on the podium before!

    Sebastien is an outstanding driver, don't misunderstand me, as are at least a half dozen others, Fernando (to me the best driving today), Lewis, Nico, Kimi, maybe Daniel. But since 2009 and until this year F1 has been all about the Red Bull car. So I can do without Seb in my Ferraris. I want Fred to win a couple of WDC's in red and I also think the Scuderia has a potentially sensational young development driver coming up.

    I know I'll get clobbered for this opinion but it's just my 2c.
     
  10. DeSoto

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    I´ve just remembered this, but I don´t know if he owns the car:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/helensanders/3592824660/

    BTW, some web pages are now saying that Newey, Vettel and Horner to McLaren-Honda... There´s a lot of BS in the internet, isn´t it?
     
  11. Bas

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    The thing with the Red Bull was that it had massive rear downforce, and it took a very particular way of driving it. You had to get on throttle before the apex, something very unnatural for a driver.

    I don't think it's fair to judge Webber as a mediocre driver; in F1 the first person you have to beat is your teammate, something which he's always done until he came to Red Bull: First year he lost against DC, but second year he beat him. Then Vettel came.

    His age shouldn't be a factor either. Coming from Australia (basically anywhere not Europe and not funded by many millions is a huge disadvantage) he very well in his first year in Minardi, and the Jaguar he frequently put in positions (qualifying, before the car broke) it had no right to be at. There are many great drivers which took forever to take a win. Their skills aren't to blame but rather their equipment.

    Don't worry, you won't get clobbered here with your opinion of Vettel being a sub par driver...many here HATE him. In fact, most welcome the statement ;) (Not me).

    Alonso will never win a title for Ferrari, he's leaving the team this year. Bianchi might end up at Ferrari but who knows in how long...Vettel would be incredible IMO.
     
  12. PowerSlide

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    Alonso going no where, he will retire in few more years at ferrari. Kimi will be gone too by then and maybe that's the time vettel will join.

    As for newey, high possibility no but this rumour make horner feel uneasy LOL
     
  13. -K1-

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    He also used to own a somewhat controversial 288 GTO
     
  14. Mulehead

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    the kid wanna race at Monza in the rain driving a Minardi . Alonzo Hamilton and the rest of those so called fast guys are in the race but one person wasn't we know who that is he was retired by the clown LDM hack joke lawyer
     
  15. moretti

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    THAT is a brilliant idea, fixes a lot of issues in the disparity dept between teams
     
  16. moretti

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    Nice assessment, but I think Webber was a little better than a journeyman and I think Daniel is the real deal as well.

    The car ALWAYS makes the WDC, the best driver in the slowest car will never shine but mediocre drivers like Button and JV snagging the best car and getting WDC doesn't mean they are the best drivers out there.

    I'm really warming to Kimi this year, thought he'd be a dud but he seems to really want to race ... I hope they give him a good car and a fair run of the team , he'd clobber Alonso and I quite like FA :)
     
  17. PDX_214

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    Totally agree on your view of Seb. He is being humbled this year so maybe his attitude will change, but I don't think he's as great of a driver as the last few years have led us to believe. Newey won those titles, it just so happened Seb was the loose nut behind the wheel.

    Alonso is Ferraris best chance to win ANYTHING this year, or for the foreseeable future. Taking on Vettel would be a step in the wrong direction. Bringing Newey on board would be as well, it would just prolong the inevitable of a total restructure.

    "Past performance is no guarantee of future results", and all that jazz.
     
  18. ross

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    the only way newey would go to ferrari, is if brawn asked him to join him.
    ferrari's current drivers are a better combo than anybody else out there right now, so no point in switching that.

    brawn is the answer overall. he knows exactly why and how the mercedes is winning, and he knows exactly who to poach from over there, and since they mistreated him he is motivated for some revenge. he also knows exactly how to work at the scuderia, and with ldm. so the simplest thing is to put brawn back in the seat, let him hire whoever he wants, including newey, and then prepare the attack.
     
  19. crinoid

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    Yes.
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    Brawn worked at Ferrari because he was part of a gang of three that were able to run things as they should. Despite its great success that's a model that Luca isn't about to allow again.
     
  21. crinoid

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    Shut yo mouth! (Just kidding)
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    You laugh to keep from crying.

    We seem to be back in the good old days when it was more important to do things the Ferrari way than to win.
     
  23. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Hence the articles in the press from Ferrari's Allison stating Ferrari need more creativity. It feels as though Ferrari are a controlled environment compared to others. To me at least on the outside and only reading what is fed to us.

    What does LdM think of those comments or the lack of 'creativity' in house??
     
  24. VIZSLA

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    Can't say for sure but his actions indicate that its not a concern.
     
  25. intrepidcva11

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    adhere to my assessment of Mark

    agree entirely about Daniel, a possible future champion

    agree Kimi's still a great driver

    disagree with you on Fernando who I believe is easily the best driving today
     

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