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  1. SCHNELL

    SCHNELL Rookie

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    Clutch is stuck from sitting (again), last year I was able to break it loose, no luck this time. Any suggestions?
     
  2. David Lind

    David Lind Formula 3

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    You probably tried this, but:
    Jack up both rear wheels/tires, start car (presumably stuck in gear), put on brakes. That should pop it loose. (I assume the clutch is stuck to the flywheel, right?)
     
  3. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    my clutch was stuck in my old 308 and this is what i did...

    pushed the car out where i had a bit of strait road, then put it in gear, pushed clutch pedal down to the floor and then started the car... it will start to move forward so you need some room to move... then bang... it released.... and it worked normally after that.
     
  4. Tokyo Drftr

    Tokyo Drftr Formula 3

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    I was able to stick a screw driver in the window at the top of the bell housing. Where all the oil that you spill goes when changing the filter. Just have someone hold clutch down. Then pop the clutch off where its stuck with the screw driver. Not running of course
     
  5. mike996

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    #5 mike996, May 30, 2014
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    As far as using the starter, you don't really need to move the car or jack it up. You can do it in the garage easily enough. Just put it in gear, press firmly on the brake pedal and clutch pedal and engage the starter. The brakes will easily hold the car (that's their job!). The starter may or may not be able to break it loose. I have had clutches seize up over the years several times; it's caused by the clutch disc getting damp/wet and not being totally dry when the car is parked. I have had it happen overnight so long-term storage is not required! :)

    The clutch can get wet from driving through a puddle or in the rain or from washing, depending on the clutch/bell housing design. My 328 did it once but the starter was able to break it loose. You don't really need to put the tranny in
     
  6. st@ven

    st@ven F1 Rookie

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    i did this the last time:


    remove the small alu cover on the bellhouse
    put the car into gear ( if not on there'se one rootcause)
    put your wife,son, nabur in the car ad tell him to step on the clutch
    push it slighly untill you see a part of the cluch with some space to the flywheel
    stick in a kitchen knife and swivel it around as much as you can.
    remove the knive and push the car untill the next section with some space to the flywheel
    repeat

    a was fully round ( you have 4-6 of these section as remember well) and than the clutch came loose. fuctionned after that normal.

    In my experience damp will cause this. When you had your last drive in the wet it's pretty likely to happen. after a long ( with me it was 5 months of winter) time the plate wll simply " rust" to the flywheel.

    it's a easy fx but it works.

    PS don't forget to put the cover on again
     
  7. David Lind

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    The potential problem with just starting the car in gear with the brakes on is it may possibly cause the cam belt(s) to jump a few teeth or even break. This is a potential disaster. IMHO: far better off to spend 15 minutes jacking up the back of the car.
     
  8. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Nope, not gonna happen. The load on the brakes in no way effects the load on the belts.
     
  9. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    If it is gently stuck that may work but I have seen them stuck much worse. In a car dealer with a lot full of cars that get washed twice a week we used to see a lot of rusted clutches. I have had some where I needed to drive nearly a mile with my foot on the clutch pedal at slow speed in 1st nailing and letting off the throttle over and over to free a rusted disc.
     
  10. mike996

    mike996 F1 Veteran

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    Absolutely agree! I have had more stuck clutches that would NOT release using the starter to apply the force than ones that would. My 328's stuck clutch last year is one of the few that did release with only the brakes/starter attempt. But heck, it's worth a try first before proceeding onward.
     
  11. Russ Gould

    Russ Gould Formula 3

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    Push the car to where you can drive it. Start it in neutral and let it warm up. Then shut it down and start it in 3rd or 4th and drive off (have someone push it while you crank the starter). You can change from third to 4th by timing the shift if you can't start 4th. Then push the clutch in and stab the throttle a few times while going on a flat or better yet a slight uphill. It will break free.
     
  12. David Lind

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    Rifledriver: you have more experience than I do, hands down. But if the clutch is stuck and the brakes are applied, something is going to break loose, right. Hopefully, it's the clutch. If not ... Isn't this the same logic which dictates that we shouldn't bump start 3.2 V8s?
     
  13. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    A. The belts turn the cams, not the wheels.

    B. Who says you can't bump start the V8 cars?



    Does anyone teach or study basic physics anymore?

    If I hurt my thumb do I need to amputate my toe? Makes as much sense.
     

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