FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2014 RACE **SPOILERS***

"Jerked" may be an overstatement, but he definitely moved over to block Massa. I thought he braked early but kept his line. Clearly he veered over in an effort to make his car wider.

 

Toto Wolff alluded to possible brake issues before the start of the race. MB was aware of the issue but the drivers seem not to have driven in a way that might have avoided it.

 

During the race Nico asked how Hamiltons brake bias was set.

The answer was more towards the rear.
Which is what failed after the braking ability of ERS was lost (hypothetically).

Unless the rotors were completely broken up and gone I would have continued on.
Perhaps they were.

Never did find out if Nico matched Hami's bias or continued on as before.

They pushed each other off the cliff and out of first spot.
With 20/20 hindsight Merc should have told them both to cool it.

 

Given that Canada is the hardest track on brakes they should have overbuilt them. ERS was surely pushed past the limit as well.

They had a half a second a lap in performance to play with over the rest of the field.
Sacrifice a bit for reliability.

 

According to the Motorsport race report MB (and others?) have pared down the size of their rear rotors for aerodynamic reasons. The thinking is that with the ERS rear brakes are superfluous this year but the rules require their fitment. That's assuming that the ERS works of course.

 

Since his first race ever, Hamilton has locked the inside front more than any other driver. ( including Canada practice) It makes sense that his bias would have started more towards the rear.

sent remotely

 

He was going for points.
He is not the first nor the last driver to throw a blocking move in F1.
The rules allow it.
A good driver fights for position and since this was the last lap now is a good of time as any.

All that said he did do the move too late.
Massa had no time to correct or was already committed to the line or wasn't paying enough attention.

Perez screwed up.

 

Looks to me Massa first accelerated right, towards Perez to grab his line for a tighter turn-in and to get on the inside of Perez in the corner, which would have placed Perez solidly behind him. Perez could have closed the door earlier but probably didn't realize how fast Massa was and he moved over too late, caused the contact.

 

Massa claims to have braked early before the contact.
FWIW

 

He did. Checo has got some brilliant moves up his sleeve and I really think with Hulkenberg in there as well Force India have a sensational driver line up. However, Checo's judgement on the limit seems to be off at times. This was another example of that and it is a pity it had big consequences.

 

He is the only driver that consistently and repeatedly "semi-locks" his inside front.
IE he has the ability to brake to the point where that tire almost stops rotating, smokes up, yet continues slowly around so as not to flat spot the tire.
This extracts the most braking force out of the critical outside front tire.

Just amazing.

 

Not from looking the overhead video. He was accelerating to grab his line.

 

Or his brakes and tires were shot meaning he had to brake early but still that allowed enough momentum for an inside pass attempt.
Or he did not brake hard.

Clearly it was a passing attempt.

Perez saw it coming.

 

I sincerely doubt Raikkonen is ever going to win another WDC.

In all honesty, I think Kimi will leave Ferrari before Fernando, despite all the talk prior to the start of the season of Kimi coming in and smoking Alonso and forcing him to throw a fit and quit the team. That clearly isn't going to happen.

 

Yeah, Perez should have looked and just held his line at that point. He didn't have enough speed or a safe distance to safely block Massa.

 

The radio and team confirmed he had virtual brake failure. Smedley is correct in asserting that he had no business being left on track. He was a dangerous block to racing. Period. His penalty is light for what he accomplished - ZERO.

 

Seriously though. He was the fastest car in a straight line. Even on worn tires, his rivals would have had a really hard time getting by him - just look at Perez. Even on old tires and worn brakes it took Ricciardo forever to get by

Massa might have won this race - which would have been fantastic

 

Indeed. Getting Kimi to join the team was a clear case of poor judgement at Ferrari's part. Hulkenberg would have performed better at half the salary and twice the motivation.

I am sure there are lots of reasons why Kimi can't get the car to work. One if them is that he is given a horrible car to drive, but same goes for Alonso, and he has got 69 points to Kimi's 18. So it is 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 all over again. I don't subscribe to the whole 'Alonso has the team wrapped around his finger'- business. From the outside it is an easy argument to make, but in the end it is Kimi driving the car and it is up to Kimi and his engineer to get the thing to work.

So far, Kimi has the right to be dissapointed in Ferrari, but same goes the other way around.

 

In recent weekends Kimi has been getting closer to Alonso. Barcelona and Monaco he was beating him and he outqualified him in Bahrain and finished right behind him despite being hit by Magnussen.

I have no idea which one will leave. If Alonso can get a drive at Mclaren or something I think he'll jump at that opportunity rather quickly right now, but same goes for Raikkonen.

What was actually said was that there was a lot of hope that Kimi would beat Alonso and make him cry. Hope being the keyword. Most agreed that it would be close and Alonso would take the most points overall.

Considering the F14 suckmobile is being designed mostly around Alonso's driving style (unsurprising, he was their best hope since he came to the team, and the car was already being developed early in 2013 before they even knew Kimi was coming), and the learning curve that comes with the idiotic suspension, he hasn't done bad.

He's had some terrible luck in a lot of races, so the results don't reflect his performance.

 

you keep forgetting that staying out of trouble is a talent as well. Alonso has the same car. Don't sell me that BS of 'designed around him'. They're all worldclass drivers and they should be able to work with the exact same material that their teammate has. There is a lot to be done with personal setup. These are racingcars, remember? There are three sessions before qualifying to get a setup sorted out.

Fact is, Kimi is hired to be succesful. In F1 you do that be scoring as much points as possibile. Your teammate is the benchmark. 69 against 18. We are 7 races in. Kimi has to start to deliver. The excuses are done now.

 

I agree he has had a lot of bad luck but Alonso is really working him over. You say he was beating him at Monaco...well that was true but that was because Kimi got a great start. Alonso had been quicker in every session all weekend. There have also been several races where it hasn't even been close...like Alonso v. Massa style domination.

I think Kimi will continue to close the gap. I don't think he is as good as Alonso and I don't think he ever has been, but his form is better than the results show this season. Bottom line, it doesn't really matter because with the car both are being given isn't even close to being capable of winning a race.

The best driver lineup is being wasted...

 

Being torpedoed isn't really a matter of being able to stay out of trouble. If someone crashes into you sometimes there really isn't anything you can do about it. Don't forget that Kimi hold the record (set last year) for most consecutive point finishes. Nothing wrong with his race craft.

The nature of the car is indeed around Alonso. Ferrari would've been fools not to. It is possible to get rid of the nature through setup but that will ultimately be a compromise in ultimate speed of the car.

+1. I really do think in the coming races the gap will be minuscule however.

Bottom line is, currently Ferrari are fighting for scraps. We've been promised a lot by Ferrari over the years and it's always been ''next year...next year''. Times up. Both their drivers are pissed of with the underperforming car.

 

I remember in a recent interview of Fred in which he stated (and I believe him) that he would prefer a fast car that is a handful do drive over a slightly slower but stable car.

He would prefer a monster over somthing fat dumb and happy and a tenth or two slower.

I dont like the guy but he's dead on here.

 

So they give him a slow car that's a female dog to handle.

 

The best race of this season in my opinion and what can you say about Daniel Ricciardo never giving up and getting his first win so soon. I was almost teary eyed that Alesi was the interviewer since his first F1 win was also in Montreal, no way that could have been expected. FANTASTIC!!!
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