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Countach, the ultimate supercar

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  1. smglop

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    Very cool, thanks so much!
     
  2. davebuchner

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  3. joe sackey

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    I was offered your car last week, for an eye-watering sum! Small world.
     
  4. joe sackey

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    It is a Series 1 (1121098), but not one of the highly-desirable first 27 cars with Stewart Warner "small gauges".

    Who knows where the original Bravos went?

    1121100, the next chassis number, is the last car, owned by Mike Pullen in England.
     
  5. joe sackey

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    Agreed, and it was the right course of action to clean them up and make them presentable.

    FWIW I know of another 1979 Countach LP400S Series 1 sitting forlornly in a garage somewhere in the USA.
     
  6. Taurean Bull

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    Even though I maintain that the rise was too quick, etc, I will also reiterate the point that huge sale $ for these cars do tend to make the barn finds come out, and high quality restos are done, and that is a good thing, IMO.
     
  7. sherpa23

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    That RM auctions car was dug out many months ago. I don't think that anyone anticipated that it would go to market in the type of frenzied marketplace that we have now.
     
  8. Taurean Bull

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    How many months ago?

    True enough, but depending on how long it's been, the market was probably already on it's way up. The comment Joe made also prompted the response. Regardless whether that car is available, it brings up the proverbial "out of the woodwork" meme.
     
  9. Countachqv

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    I believe this has been discussed a while back. I was trying to know which Vin too several years ago.
    So here is what I got:

    last 5000S was FLA12795. A factory injected Red car made on 01/85
    it sold a few year ago, from a CA owner. Not sure who the new owner is.

    Before that you had Joe Frazar black FLA12794,also a "factory injected".

    I believe I identified these car in my thread about 2 valves injected

    Since FLA12796 is supposed to be the first QV, it leaves little doubt which car is the last 5000S
     
  10. smglop

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    Very helpful, thanks. I wonder how many cars were built from the Andretti 12773 car to the last 12795 car. I hate to open up that can of worms that is Lambo Vin numbers, but I guess the "only odd numbers" is not true since you've identified 12794.
     
  11. Autosport

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    At the current prices cars are coming out of the wood work. I'm surprised you didn't get the call to represent this car Joe ?
     
  12. joe sackey

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    Let's not assume I didn't. Cars are sold by auction, public advertising & privately, and my work is confined to Private Treaty sales only, so, upon discussing the marketing of a car, if the decision is made by the seller to go the auction route (for example), then, I'm not a player.
     
  13. triple-x

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    Joe, does that RM car really have 864 KM's? Also, where has it been hiding all these years?

    With the market the way it is, I still have high hopes of someday finding that Apricot CT.
     
  14. sherpa23

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    It was right beneath many of our noses for a week a year for many, many years.
     
  15. Countachqv

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    Odd vs even numbers are for early cars only. The VINs for 5000S are incremental by 1. Based on this, cars build from 773 is simple math (795-773) = 22.

    The real question is was the VIN order reflecting the build order? unless you have the build plate date, you don't know.

    If I am wrong, someone please correct me.
     
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    Are the KM's true and if so would that be considered a garage queen that's going to require a full mechanical rebuild?
     
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    If it helps any. I'm 715 built between the last few days of May into the First week of June with an import date of June 22nd 1984 to DFW & federalized in LA,CA Aug 1984. I have all the build papers & export/import & federalization papers to my car.
     
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    I can't talk to the authenticity of the km's but based on the condition that I saw the car in when it was found/picked up, it is very very possible and likely. And it was found with a Boxer in similar condition with similar kms.
     
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    What sherpa23 already said. I have no reason to doubt the 536 miles it shows on the clock.

    There are a handful of Countachs I'm aware of that have not moved or been seen in public in 20+ years. Case in point LP400S S3 1121374 (below) which I just sold. I am aware of at least one other S1 which has never been photographed locked away in a garage.
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  20. smglop

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    That's exactly what I needed. Thank you both so much!
     
  21. Countachqv

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    In some way that is sad. I met a lady this weekend who came to tell me how she appreciated lambos and particularily the countach. She was amazed I was driving it.

    When I asked why was she so surprised to see that car driven she mentioned her husband has one, along with 30+3 other cars in their underground garage and he never drive any of them after buying them. He just look at them.

    I guess for some people,cars are just like paintings.their create their own private museum for no one but themselves to see. Obviously, his wife, being a car buff, wanted him to drive the cars...
     
  22. joe sackey

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    Exactly. I understand it both ways. Some drive a lot, some a little, some not at all.

    The notion that everyone should be out there doing the exact same thing is not reality, and Ive learned to accept it for what it is. So far as the cars are being kept properly, I have no problem with someone who doesn't drive often, or at all.
     
  23. smglop

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    I do the same little driving. My problem is living in a stifling urban area. When I take my
    car out, it is bombarded by potholes, stuck in bumper to bumper traffic, and there is a light at every corner. And that's during the week. Never mind the weekend.
    At the end of the day, the only way for me to enjoy it is looking at it in the garage. I used to at least drive it to the local Starbucks, but I'm afraid my insurance would deny a potential claim because I was out on an "errand".
    Now if I lived out in the boonies, I guarantee way higher mileage.
     
  24. smglop

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    I also know a lot of people who have purchased cars when they were underpriced, but suddenly these cars represent a very large portion of their net worth. That could be unsettling.

    My number 1 factor though, is that I used to drive my car and know that if God forbid something happened, I could probably find another one. I think that has changed in a big way now.
     
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    Well, you can always fix it.......as the values increase, the rebuild cost is small compared to value.....and as an extreme some classic Ferraris are worth building from scratch around a vin tag with money left over to spare!
     

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