Official Countach Value Thread

Yup, that's me.

Steve

 

Hi Steve, When they did the repaint the common mistake on the diagnoal flat black area near the top air intakes and the black lip on the underbody was forgotten - an easy fix though. Alex

 

Exactly. And good eye Marcel!

 

Steve,

There are 3 basic ways to sell your Countach.

Auction - if you have the tolerance for making the sale of your car public information and wish to draw as many bids as possible, then this might be the way for you. I would pick a reputable auction house like Gooding or RM and discuss terms directly with them.

Public sale - if you prefer to pick a retail dealer who advertises their cars across the internet and can handle the sale for you, then this might be the way for you. In this instance, do your homework and discuss terms directly with the entoty of your choice.

Private Treaty sale - if you prefer to have a specialist handle the sale of your Countach directly to a collector, then this might be the way for you. The sale remains private, and you are always in control of the terms. This is what I do quite successfully, and I'd be happy to help you. Naturally, if you go this route, the discussions are private, at least until the car is sold.

Either way, you have to do a fair amount of homework before picking your route.

Good luck!

 

You may also want to look at the "Fee's" associated with these 3 options and the "possible" NET return of sale in your pocket.

1) Auction house, you have a "sellers" fee of, pending what you negotiate 8-10% on the hammer price. It is a very quick and limited sale if you place a reserve on it. If it hits reserve, or you lift the reserve as it gets close..it is a quick way to sell. HOWEVER if it does not SELL at the auction, the car becomes more difficult to sale as the internet world is small and the "price" for you car has been set in the "Public Eye" by the last "no sale" bid on your car.

2) Private sale, as Joe does. As I recall, last Joe had mentioned his fee's of 10% ..you will have to check with him to verify. This type of sale, again is very very limited to the "possible buyers" he has and the price remains "secret" but may very well end up being "undersold" in its value as you only have a "limited" source to offer price on your car.

3) Consignment with a LICENSED and BONDED Dealer such as my store. There is a FLAT rate of 5% of the finial selling price. This fee is ONLY DUE IF WE sell your car. We do all advertising, title work, funds escrow, transports, report of sales....and of course stunning photo's and details as we list on our web site and MULTIPLE outlets across the world, NOT just a very small limited "possible buyers". This method gives you the WIDEST offering of your car to the LARGEST buyers around the world...which of course results in the BEST POSSIBLE return at time of sale on your car.

Roy Cats
www.catsexotics.com

 

Dan,

Triple-x typically doesn't mince words, and often is rather less-than-eloquent in his postings, but, he means well, and in fact, he has a valid point.

As the saying goes: "Its not WHAT you say, its HOW you say it".

Let me try and state this a little more diplomatically:

In a healthy market that is good for Buyers & Sellers alike, cream rises to the top. Period. There is no other way. Accordingly, you will see cars advertised asking for absolute top dollar (which is what triple-x perceives you have done with your car).

Up on top of Mount Everest where the air is thin, oxygen is at a premium, and, accordingly, cars on the very top of the ask price scale ought to reflect the very top in terms of condition. This means NO modifications replete throughout the car.

A car that has had wheels and many components throughout the engine bay chromed, has been substantially modified, and is accordingly not at the top of the condition scale.

Put it this way, if such a car was shown at Pebble Beach or a major Concours D'Elegance, it would not pass judging.

Having said all that, it would not take much to rectify the aforementioned modifications, before asking top price. Although it is entirely the Seller's prerogative, asking top price when the car is clearly not top condition is reflective of a bubble market where Sellers are looking for a sucker (an expression used with all due respect), and this type of activity makes Countach owners who want the market to remain strong (triple-x for example), both unhappy & nervous. I have seen your car and it is very very nice, but, it is significantly-modified as described above.

Perhaps I have done a better job explaining why you gained the sentiments from triple-x that you did, and I certainly hope you take them in a positive spirit from one professional to another, purely as a basis for affording you good (& free) advice.

Meanwhile, I will send triple-x an invoice for my services as a PR agent!

Best,

 

Steve,

Regarding Private Treaty sales, here is a little more info:
To Acquire or Sell | Joe Sackey Classics

"Joe’s consultancy fee is generally 5% of the sale or purchase price paid upon completion of the deal".

Also, here are a few cars we have sold recently:
Placed | Joe Sackey Classics

As of yesterday we have sold 5 Countachs in the past 30 days.

Best,

 

PM me and I'll give you some private advice

 

Hi Emilio, yes, great unused car in great if not the best colour combo, i would love to detail it, but yes that car sure will go for serious money, the market for countachs is going up like a rocket the past few months...

 

Joe
My feelings are not hurt, and yes I appreciate the free advice. I have had a lot of positive feedback as well as negative, but life is good and I really enjoy owning the car; that's why Im comfortable on Everest.

 

Pleased to report I sold one car and bought another on Joe's page, both great experiences!

 

Thank you Andrew!

 

I'm very glad you are open-minded!

Don't forget to use your oxygen mask if you start feeling light-headed!

 

Marcel,

If you'd like to detail a nice original S1, how about this one in France?

Rosso/Tabacco is rare.

Please contact Autodrome for details.
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For those who want to go shopping, this LP400 is coming to the market: 7,760 miles or 12,500 kms from new, this is the RHD LP400 that lived with a Miura SV on the Island of Malta in its early days.
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Speaking of Countachs coming out of the woodwork, soon-to-be sold is the famous World Speed Record holder at MIRA, the ex-Barry Robinson LP500S complete with factory blueprinted engine. It is presented in pretty-much original condition and is looking like some cosmetic TLC will be required. A 1983 Lamborghini Countach, its is the one-and-only ZA9C0050LA12550.

It is claimed by the vendor that only 25 RHD LP500S were made. I didn't think there were even that many.

The vendor says:

"'12550' was tested by Car magazine while it was owned by racing driver, demolition contractor and Lamborghini aficionado, Barry Robinson, and carried the registration 'BR 33'. A copy of the article, which appeared in Car's April 1984 edition, is on file. The Lamborghini's first owner, Robinson had had the engine blueprinted, its output being estimated by the factory at around 425bhp, some 50 horsepower more than standard. Car revealed that Robinson had recently set a series of British speed and endurance records with his Countach, lapping Vauxhall's Millbrook test track at 180mph for extended periods."
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BR 33 was THE poster car for me as a 10 year old

 

There was a celebratory lunch held last October for all those involved with setting these UK speed records some thirty years ago. You may recognise some familiar faces in this photo and I was honoured to be asked to bring my Countach along to display, which was topped off by the addition of the famous BR 33 number plate..
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nice!!! Never seen that car before!

 

Awesome and thanks for sharing Harry. I saw 12550 with BR 33 on many times in the 80s!

 

Note its a big-gauge S1, from the second batch of cars.

 

That car really is what the Countach is all about for so many people. The 180mph dream ride.

I bet it is a fantastic drive. Nice!

 

Ok, I was aware of the issue with the paint on the pinch flange on the bottom of the sills but I'm not sure what you are referring to about the diagonal flat black area near the top air intakes. Help me out on that one....

Steve

 

There is black paint that runs from the top corner of the side 1/4 window diagonally to about the bottom of the air intake.

 

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