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Toto warns the drivers about transparency

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  1. toil

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    This is more likely going to benefit nico because he is always copying lewis set ups.

    Hence why every weekend he slowly gets closer to lewis come qualy

    Tbh they have constructors in the bag. I'm all for them not being transparent
     
  2. Aircon

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    Who told you that?
     
  3. Bas

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    The antennae option ($19.99) on the tin foil hat.
     
  4. Aircon

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    That's what I figured
     
  5. toil

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    No it was actually mentioned in an article somewhere that nico gets more benefit from the shared data. This was like 3 weeks ago
     
  6. Aircon

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    Who wrote the article and where did he get the information?

    Sounds like BS to me.
     
  7. toil

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    I don't recall. But how does it sound like bs when numerous times over the radio we have heard nico ask for Lewis's settings? Also how does it explain how most race weekends lewis has an advantage and nico then closes it. I assure you I'm not making it up
     
  8. Aircon

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    You have as much of an idea as I do. Zero.
     
  9. toil

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    Since you are mates, ring nico and ask why he likes to copy
     
  10. Bas

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    Lewis asks the same questions on the radio too. It's nothing out of the ordinary.
     
  11. Aircon

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    I rang him and told him what you said. He fell off his chair with laughter and reminded me that's what people said about lewis copying alonso's settings at McLaren.

    He said it was crap then and it's crap now.
     
  12. Nachtfalter

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    Couldn't Nico simply take longer to feel comfortable on the track, and then get faster? Right now, he just seems more focused, less distracted. He is also faster when it matters.

    Its pretty obvious based on their cool off room behavior towards each other that the love affair is over.
     
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    Actually, that appears to be the source of the allegation that Nico was taking LH's information.

    I don't know that I agree with Toto...if both drivers are free to race, why take away any set up advantage? Maybe he's saying he'll do that until the WCC is sewn up, but it seems like a tough move for the drivers to accept.

    Good luck designating a #1/#2 driver among this pair. One of them will need to leave, otherwise the team will implode. The lesson is always the same: you cannot have two alpha dogs on the same team.
     
  16. kraftwerk

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    Exactly that's why I said it's rubbish/bolloxs .. Button did the same when Ham was at Mclaren, could it just be that Hamilton can eek out those extra tenths by his own skill...
     
  17. TifosiUSA

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    So Hamilton never looks at any of his teammate's data...right guys. :rolleyes:
     
  18. kraftwerk

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    No not saying that, but I'd tend to think it is the other way round, as Hamilton usually is a pole sitter when his car and team mate play ball.

    As I said it's tit for tat, Hamilton has said it because as the article you posted quite clearly pointed that out, Nico has been looking at his data, it's BS.

    Don't you remember when he was at Mclaren and Hamilton kicked off because Button and his engineers were studying his data.

     
  19. Aircon

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    and when the punters were saying lewis was copying Alonso's data?
     
  20. Jacob Potts

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    (paranoid)Who told you about the antenna option on the tin foil hat?!

    I was certain I ALONE knew about it!

    Jacob (/end paranoid) :)
     
  21. kraftwerk

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    Aha yes that's when Alonso started bribing his own engineers with his own money to make his car faster, yes I remember that.

    I have no doubt Hamilton benefited from Freds car set up, but think about it, he matched him with his own car set up as a rookie, impressive again IMO, if we want to go down that route.
     
  22. Aircon

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    There is no doubt they all compare every single thing between team mates. Just like Nico would be wondering why Lewis was always faster in the first sector, Lewis would be wondering why Nico was always faster in the second.

    That's how the teams work.
     
  23. kraftwerk

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    Agreed only a fool would dismiss that sort of info if it is available.

    Alonso stopped Hamilton having access to his IIRC.
     
  24. Aircon

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    at least, that's what the blind man's dog told you.
     

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