Ferrari Enzo crash on I-95 in CT this morning.

you mean "former Miller tech"

 

Lately all major crashes have been by 'dealerships' or their 'staff'. Sad for the owners. In the debate regarding damaged and non damaged cars, it is true it only affects modern cars but once they're 25+ Years old then enthusiasts don't worry as much as most old cars that haven't been in an accident have had rust panels cut out and replaced (which is still non factory) ie. lots of 250s, 275s and all the way up to the 308s which people have started to restore, which require some cut, replace and weld.

 

oh man!

That sucks!

Im sure that must have added greatly to the already congested as hell AM I95 commute.

 

So sad. I feel badly for the technician. It all occurs so quickly. Fortunately, no one was seriously injured.

Rare Ferrari crashes on I-95 in Stamford - GreenwichTime

 

Ouch!

co-incidentally I dropped into P1 in Stamford whose principal is ex Millers iirc. The workshop is dyno fitted and their comment to me was that the cars are getting so valuable (they had a 288 Gto inside) and the roads/traffic what it is, that they dyno them instead.

The benefits if the road test were outweighed by the downsides.

 

Miller is also selling 2 of his Zagato Astons. He just added a custom P1, and someone in the NY forum mentioned he has a few huge additions coming this year.

 

I would be pissed if a car such as an Enzo was crashed by a third party. It does matter a lot for this type of car to have a clean history. No matter what people say, when looking at a road car, buyers will always be more attracted to one that has not had a crash.
If you were looking at 2 Enzos, all things equal bar a crash history, what would you do? Even if the car was perfectly repaired. I know i would go for the no accident car.
And it's even worse if you are the original owner. Buying a used one will not be the same as having Your car as you specced it.

Anyway, at least both passengers are OK.

 

Andrew, you hit the nail on the head!

A ROAD car's provenance is held to a different standard than that of a RACE car.

 

"The driver was issued a ticket for failing to drive in an established lane." Creative ticketing. Got'a love it.

Problem with dyno testing is that you can not test the handling. "Mr. Fux, this is Miller Motors calling. We think we found that suspension problem you brought you car in for. We need to send the car back to Ferrari you have it corrected."

 

And a ticket, for "Failure to stay in an established lane"....

Man, that's a tough day!

Why would two techs from the dealership be in it together??

 

Ouch - that sucks...

 

Perhaps someone had to hold the beer?
I don't think the Enzo has cup holders.

Seriously, who wouldn't want to ride in an Enzo?


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Is that TAX DR's Enzo? I know that one has NJ plates.

 

No, he sold his. This car belongs to Michael Fux. Someone on the thread in the Enzo section mentioned he might have been prepping this car for sale, as Miller has been selling a number of Fux's cars recently. Just speculation, though...

 

Jalopnik is reporting that it was being driven by two techs from Miller Motorcars.

 

Yep!!!

There is little practical value to these cars compared to their prices... the value is all in the buyer's / owner's head and if something taints the romance then the value is lost.

 

Just saw this in the news, yikes! Former tech indeed. Bad press for Miller, who wants to rush down and drop off their million dollar Ferrari for service next??

 

Anybody have experience with P1?

 

No way a dyno can replace test driving. It is the definition of a double edged sword. On the one hand the insurance carrier demands it of us to be certain the car is safe to hand back to the client. On the other they don't want that liability.

One of the dealers I worked in due to a total loss claim restricted driving to employees 25 years old or more. One of our lot boys totaled a car ferrying it as part of his job. Another dealer I worked in, the owner, sales manager and the shop foreman were specifically excluded from driving due to their driving records. I worked and drove cars for about two years on an expired license and the insurance company never caught on.

It is a big liability...no doubt about that and one reason Ferrari service is more expensive than getting a Toyota fixed. We had a lot of claims at one of the dealers, it was almost all from broken windshields on test drives.



After reading the story there are 2 things that set off alarm bells after having been a shop foreman and a service manager both. One was it was first thing in the AM and the other was the passenger who was another mechanic.

There are legitimate needs to take another mechanic along but they are rare. Far more common is another employee wants a ride in a car he has never been in before.

Dumb to go on a legit test drive 1st thing in the am. Too much traffic. If it is done, especially in a car like an Enzo it is probably to dodge scrutiny by much of the management who typically don't get there 1st thing at a car dealership because that early in a car dealership the only thing going on is the service department. Sales and management types roll in a little later. I took a 275GTBC on a test drive 1st thing in the AM once and got read the riot act by the owner for being out in it in heavy traffic. The owner came in early and was standing in the driveway when I got back.

 

Rare Ferrari damaged in crash on Interstate 95 | WTNH

 

Let the factory rebuild it?

 

Very sad indeed. By the way, Enzo's have traction control so the technician may have some explaining to do....

 

And a modern road car with 400 units is held to a different standard than that of a vintage race car with less than 40 units.

 

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