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  1. Enigma Racing

    Enigma Racing Formula 3

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    What is the better result for the Ohio Contingent, £5m or an unrestored car rotting in a back yard ?

    The journey may have been full of injustice but what would a fair outcome be
     
  2. cheesey

    cheesey Formula 3

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    it's not about the litigants, the courts must be correct in their rulings to eliminate any potential challenges... as in the last round of challenges caused the court to recant their findings
     
  3. GBTR6

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    NICE!!! I was just wondering seeing as how Max Vito, if that's his real name, seems to ignore that and any American judgements as if they don't matter. Maybe they don't but they should.

    Perry
     
  4. GBTR6

    GBTR6 Formula Junior

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    Pretty strong for an anonymous poster. Perhaps some credentials?
     
  5. Ocean Joe

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    #1230 Ocean Joe, Jul 10, 2014
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    Let All the Poisons That Lurk In The Mud . . . Hatch Out.

    This may help in the Ferrari Community's quest for knowledge -- seek out the one word clue -- it will answer your question.

    You will not believe what is coming.

    Joe

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  6. 180 Out

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    Would that word be "egos"? Because it is very apparent to an outside observer that egos are driving this thing. (If the words "money" or "greed" had appeared in these texts, this would have covered all the bases.)
     
  7. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    No, the same misspelling of the word, "finial"......
     
  8. SEAN@TEAM AI

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    Who is Dave?
     
  9. BigTex

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  10. SEAN@TEAM AI

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    #1235 SEAN@TEAM AI, Jul 10, 2014
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    This line so belongs in a Will Ferrell movie.


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  11. readplays

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    My read of it is that 'Dave' is referring to David Gooding.
     
  12. SEAN@TEAM AI

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    #1237 SEAN@TEAM AI, Jul 10, 2014
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  13. Peloton25

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    #1238 Peloton25, Jul 11, 2014
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    Would be at least his 3rd FChat account if that's the case - assuming one cared to count them.

    His last account had a fairly grandiose delivery style as well and seems fair to say that Joe would take pleasure in outing him, I think.

    >8^)
    ER


    EDIT: Odd - seems the post I quoted is now missing. Apologies if that's a problem for the moderators, or you 180 Out.
     
  14. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    Ocean Joe, in post 1230, regarding the 4th line down, you quote "christopher: Dave, playing both sides of the table, with his hand in his head, could be perfect! This way, the egos are settled"
    Now, I dont know who this "Christopher" is LOL but having read and re-read this thread several times...... I hope you arent stating that this Christopher was playing both sides, NEVER. I dont believe it. Next you'll be telling me that the Pope is a Catholic.

    I cant wait for all the people with 1 post to their name that come out and talk of the messiah that is this Christopher and who according to their versions of the story couldnt possibly be involved in playing both sides of the complaint because he is a saint. Perhaps in a similar vein to Flobert (POST 721/page 37) Reproman (722/ 37) Tutis (788/ 40) OR my favourite mbzgurl (803/ 41). No it will be a new shill with a single digit post claiming to know that either Joe is the Devil incarnate or the car was not owned by Karl Kleve and/ or is a fake so it doesnt matter (as has been claimed in several posts ala 1131/ 57).

    Gentleman, fasten your seatbelts and put on your helmets in its going to be a bumpy ride.
    Enjoy
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/142450058-post721.html
     
  15. readplays

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    Yay.
     
  16. 180 Out

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    No mods involved. I deleted my question, could Max Vito be Christopher Gardner?, because I haven't read this thread prior to this week and therefore don't know enough to ask the question.
     
  17. Peloton25

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    Well I've read the thread since the beginning and I'd say it was a very fair assumption.

    >8^)
    ER
     
  18. El Wayne

    El Wayne F1 World Champ
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    I investigated this. Chris Gardner's posts originated in Switzerland. "Max Vito" is posting from another country, over 600 miles away.
     
  19. Peloton25

    Peloton25 F1 Veteran

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    Appreciate you looking into it El Wayne.

    Majority of my posts originate in California however last week they would have originated from Atlanta, some 2,100 miles away. It's also possible to easily mask the origination location through proxy without even packing a bag.

    >8^)
    ER
     
  20. Marcel Massini

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    From Mont-sur-Rolle, Switzerland, to Monaco it is 356 miles by car (Source: Google).

    Marcel Massini
     
  21. El Wayne

    El Wayne F1 World Champ
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    His posts are not originating from Monaco either. They have been from a variety of IP addresses, all originating from the same country. This is really all I will say.

    Of course, but you would think that, if he was going to use a proxy (or multiple proxies in this case), he would have made it look as though he was posting from Monaco in order to match the information in his profile.
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    So he's posting from what, public libraries?
     
  23. El Wayne

    El Wayne F1 World Champ
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    Each day, I post from a variety of IP addresses, yet I never visit a public library. I post from home, from my mobile phone (sometimes using WiFi, sometimes cellular), from my laptop (sometimes using WiFi, sometimes using cellular), and from my office.

    Now, I'm not going to publicly reveal from where he's posting, just as I would not do the same to you or anyone else here. We have no rule against posting anonymously; my concern is that he's not using multiple usernames. So far, there has been no IP match between Max Vito and any other user.
     
  24. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Thanks.

    I guess I'm not clear what constitutes a unique IP address.
     
  25. Max Vito

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    #1250 Max Vito, Jul 11, 2014
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    I’m Max Vito, not Chris Gardner – Who makes up these stories?
    My home is Monaco & holiday estate in Lake Como. I am bigger, meaner, uglier than Gardner. But, it seems no one has more time on their hands other than the dinky car collectors on this thread. Maybe one person, Joe Ford – but the unemployed often have lots of time. And I have nothing in the Ferrari deal other than I was at the sale and met this Thor character, ( see photo). He represented Chris Gardner as the owner of 50% the Ferrari at the auction, with Swaters daughter as the other half. I didn’t see Joe Ford there. I didn’t see the poor Lawson rat pack either.

    What I did discover is that Joe Ford owns nothing in the Ferrari deal, he was acting for Gardner who paid out Lawson in full for 100% of the entire Lawson/Kleve interest. Then, the gang of Ford/Kleve conspired to steal it all from Gardner. Ford, is under a criminal investigation for practicing law with no license , and as of last week – charged with a serious criminal charge in Switzerland, that is why? he could not travel to the ‘’auction’’ I imagine more B/S ‘’According’’ to those present at the Ferrari sale – Ford is suitable for jailing, and should not to be taken serious!

    Ford, who was Gardner’s former attorney, had his last fiscal income in 2009, that was a whopping $16,000 . He is homeless from loosing all his appeals in a mortgage scam he promoted, and has not filed a tax return since 2009. I hear Ford has no assets, no house, just a MGB on blocks in a parking lot overlooking a dumpster – yet, amazingly he was ‘’caught’’ with a $18,000,000 Ferrari in his name. Total scammer!

    Lets put this blog to rest and allow the new owner who just spent a lot of money to enjoy this great Ferrari as it should be.
    #0384 has been sold legally at the Bonhams Goodwood auction and paid for in full.
    ............................END of STORY............................................................


    (photos of Gardner in the Swaters Ferrari at the auction)

    (photos of of Thor, who represents Gardner, and wants to make minced meat out of Ocean Joe.)
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