Hamilton or Rosberg?

57 - 57 now.

This is incredible.

 

I am sure he would give it a go.
He holds a karate black belt.
Fight,fight,fight

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yea indeed it is.
Very suprised at that result.

 

If it was about pure outright speed, Ham would walk it, I would imagine most Nico fans would admit to that.

But it's not, there are too many factors involved, for example: who folk want to win, as opposed to who they think would really win, all IMHO.

 

Ermm I fink not, he might think twice about taking on Mald tho.

 

Yep, That bad feeling i used to have when Lewis used to pull into the pit lane for a Mclaren pit stop, its now come back

 

All I'am tying to point out is, that even your hero's can lose it as well, they all can suffer from red mist, they just do not like losing it's that simple, Hamilton wears his heart on his sleeve, is that so bad.

IMO in the past is where I think you have made your judgement about Hamilton and kept it to date, but as of now I believe you are off the mark.

I admit he did not quite follow the Alain Prost or Michael Schumacher school of winning the championship. They tended to set about the season intent only on winning the title, which means you collect the maximum points realistically available instead of fighting tooth and nail in every braking zone.

Hamilton did race every corner, and as far as he was concerned it was wheel-to-wheel racing and he will do what he wants. His racer's instinct is what makes him so good, and of course to lose that would be a disaster. It's the judgement calls at critical times that he must fine tune, which I believe as he has matured this is what he has worked on.

There is a very fine line between confidence and arrogance and he bumps right up against it without understanding why.

So to summarize this approach doesn't always make him universally popular, so IMO that is a reflection of how the votes are showing on here.

BTW it wasn't Ham doing the whining over the radio on the last race was it...

 

LOL No worries Is, maybe you are voting as if it was your money at stake, I cannot deny that is a sensible approach...

To be honest although I fight G 44's corner, I'am glad we have a fight, Nico is certainly playing a clever and shrewd game, so full marks to him, he also has just enough pace to keep 44 in his mirrors most of the time...

Hahaha ..

 

Hamilton might not have gone to that school but Rosberg seems to have been studying the curriculum.

I think the measured approach will pay dividends over a whole season, more so than the do-or-die methods that concentrate on each individual race in isolation. Hamilton has the outright speed on most circuits, but I don't think that'll decide the championship because outright speed at all costs is harder on the car - see Canada for Rosberg's ability to manage a wounded car to the finish.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

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Yeah it's incredible that there are 57 idiots who think nico can win the WDC.

People too often just look at the points tally and not the substance behind them. Lewis's pace advantage is undeniable and in some of the races earlier in the reason he absolutely dominated nico. Its the bigger picture that matters most. I have watched every single race wualifying and free practice this season which I doubt many have done so a lot of voters probably aren't in a position to comment.

Season recap:

1. Australia: lewis dnf but probably would have won otherwise
2. Malaysia: lewis
3. Bahrain: lewis
4. China: lewis
5. Spain: lewis
6. Monaco: whoever got pole was gonna win. Nico parked it
7. Canada: lewis quicker all weekend. Dnf because he's unlucky
8. Austria: lewis fhks up qualy. If pit stops were same time as nicos would've won despite starting 9th lol
9. Britain: lewis - would've won anyway despite nicos dnf and qualy in 6 made no difference


Lewis could've easily won all the gps this year but for reliability issues, slow pit stops and qualy errors. When lewis is behind nico nico has to watch his back but when lewis is in front I always feel at ease because nico doesn't have the pace lol

 

On the whole, Hamilton is someone that over his career allows himself to be affected by his emotions negatively, whereas the points I made concerning schumi and senna are to demonstrate that they controlled their emotions in different ways. I never said neither had feelings, I qualified that they controlled them in various ways. We rarely saw Michael lose his temper, and if he did, it was rarely in the cockpit of his car. I don't remember hearing many radio messages from Michael questioning team decisions and blaming the team for mistakes, he drove around problems, offered solutions, and won races. Hamilton loses his temper, makes mistakes, blames every man and his dog, and alienates people at times, and when people get in his head he rarely has an answer. He's quick, I give him that, but he's not in the same class as a senna, schumi, Alonso. Maybe he's misunderstood, but rosberg while whiny, gets on with his job in the main, and the team are responding to him better than Hamilton.

I wouldn't expect any racer to be an automaton, things have to get to them along the way, anyone that didn't get stressed would be weird, but he doesn't seem to have the control others have. It's one thing to kick the toolboxes/helmets/engineers in the garage, quite another to enter into tirades with the press about how the little blonde girl is cheating on him........ who cares Lewis, race him, beat him, do the same or whatever, but sympathy won't be given to someone driving the best car on the grid by 2 seconds a lap that moans cos he comes second and wants to blame everyone and everything, it goes to the drivers that outperform their car and still don't win, and put their heart and soul into earning their fee

Nico will likely win it this year, as I've pointed out, merc management are looking increasingly tired of making excuses for the pathetic name calling and blubbering, and if it continues, they may just make sure that the fastest merc is the German driven one. Don't forget, even at McLaren against button, a journeyman driver at best, Lewis had his shenanigans going on, posting his telemetry data on twitter like a spoilt child at one point and getting public censure for it.

It's one thing to be like kimi, and make a statement of fact, and if you don't like it, tough, but Lewis moans and moans and moans when things go wrong. STFU and focus on making it work Lewis, you're boring.

PS - feeling 100% now then krafty! Hate to say it, but on the one hand, great news for you, on the other, not sure I'm happy as undoubtedly every comment I make is going to have to be justified in triplicate every time!

 

A great read - though somehow doubt that the author was the Honorary Secretary of the Michael Schumacher Fan Club.......

Best, Sammy

 

I agree Andy, see my post to Isobel, Nico is playing the clever game, but he needs to, to negate Ham's natural speed, small as it maybe..

In Canada Ham was harder on his car because he was playing catch up, had the roles been reversed maybe the same could have happened to Nico, but fair play to Nico he was on the radio IIRC asking about Ham's brake bias, so maybe he knew a problem was looming and adjusted, if so playing it clever again.

Whether boxing clever or natural hard driving will win the day I'am not sure, sure we are lucky it's happened to keep it interesting, imagine what it would be like if Hamilton had, had no DNF's.....

 

LOL Ok Sid points taken, maybe I do not wholeheartedly agree with you but I can see I will never convince you either way but, it's all good, BTW just as well you put "Likely" eh...

Maybe am still ill if you have to justify in triplicate every time!...

 

Obviously the person that complied that was not a big MS fan, eh Sam

 

Please don't call other forum users idiots. You can make your point without resorting to name-calling.

1. Perhaps
7. He wasn't quicker at the start of the race.
8. Perhaps
9. He seemed to have half a pit stop in hand even before Rosberg started suffering reliability issues in his gearbox. Had he needed to, I think Hamilton could have gone full race distance without another stop, though Rosberg would have probably been on much fresher tyres at that point and it would have been interesting.

It's an exciting championship - at last!!

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Lots of ifs in there.

Lewis had a standout performance in China, when he was I think 5 tenths quicker than Nico in quali and Nico finished 20 odd seconds behind.

For the rest of the season, they've been so close together you can't call it. I'd point out more things in your list but I'll just be repeating myself and I'm nursing one hell of a hangover at the moment.

Just because some of us aren't LewHam fans and pray to a statue of his doesn't mean we're idiots.

 

Okay perhaps calling you all idiots was a bit heavy handed but I meant no offence to anyone personally I was just trying to make my point morn dramatic.


Hmm I don't think one can say that nico was faster in canada. He had a poor start and lewis only lost a position to vettel when nico bundled him off the track...but he had the racing line so I'm not complaining at his actions. Just saying nico actually
Had a slower start.


I don't think Britain would have been interesting. Lewis was gonna get much more time on the hards which were a second a lap quicker.


Hmm yes china was an asss whooping but I dnno if I would say closely matched. Matched would imply tit for tat in every race. But id say lewis is consistently a tenth faster at every track give or take. Sure sometimes they trade tenth for tenth over a block of laps (e.g say ten laps) but over the course of a race lewis eeks out an advantage.

Nico isn't a bad driver by any means though. Holding his own more than I thought he would.

 

Nico was NOT Being clever. None of them foresaw brake failure after mgku failure. When rosberg was asking for hamiltons brake settings that was him whining just after lewis took a second or so out of his lead and he wanted to play catch up. It was only after hamiltons car perished in the hotter temp behind rosberg that he changed his settings. That is NOT prude management. By dint of being in hotter air hamiltons car failed first. Rosber then capitalized with the benefit of hindsight. Luck and circumstance not inTelligence

 

The consistency of the poll's result is about as surprising and unusual as Rosberg's consistency this year.

Take a look at this guy's driving record and you would have never predicted the series of 1 and 2 finishes this year. It is as if he realized that this is his one and only shot at the title.

 

I do not think that this season is Nico's "one and only shot at a title".

 

Aren't Lewis' marginally longer pit stops down to his repeatedly over shooting his marks?
It's not by much but the differences in times aren't either.

 

Well even looking at it from a completely unbiased view point, one could deduce there is a trend developing here, and considering how long Ham has been in the business, suddenly forgetting where his marks are, does somewhat raise some question marks.

However on the flip side, it could be the case (missing his marks), but to think the engineers have been told from higher up, to add a couple of sec's here and there to his pit stops doesn't make sense, but nothing surprises me in F1 anymore.....I'll have to ask Flavio for inside info on how that works..

Only to add it must be very very frustrating on track gaining a tenth here and there to have it completely wiped out in one swift moment.