Cost to Race CCR?

Just wondering if anyone can give a ballpark number for racing this entire series in terms of car prep costs, trackside costs, consumables and transportation. I am based in Dallas and have raced SCCA Formula Mazda several years and would like to race a 360 in this series. any financial information would be appreciated.

 

The 360 is definitely the biggest bang for the buck. CCR has very little if any car to car contact, so unless you damage it yourself you don't have too much to worry about on the car. If the 360 is a good one they are reliable. They haven't depreciate in a decade, so that's the biggest savings bc the car is essentially free. Budget 10-12k per event. Absent major failure you should be able to do an entire arrive and drive series for 70k. Support with a top team should be 6.5k a weekend, that's prep between races and transportation and full support. (That's high side-some teams are less) one time membership 1.5k (includes 3k of gear). Entry fee is 1.5k per event. One set of tires 1.8k. 1k consumables. 5 races, 50k plus 20k misc. You can spend less or more. Cars are even, but tires wear as you go faster. I highly suggest a pro drivers coach (CCR has several) which ads 1.5k per weekend. This is the best performance advantage you can get. 360 also sounds like an F1 car and in CCR spec with the wing and splitter it's about the best handling GT car on the planet.

 

Wow, great information! Thanks John ! If all goes well this year you might have a new back marker to drive around next year LOL!

PM me sometime and maybe we can have a drink at my hotel in New Orleans, The Saint, and discuss further.

Mark

 

Give a call over to Norwood Auto Italia (based in Carrollton) for specifics on their support costs. They are supporting 3 of us this year in the series and do a fantastic job. We have also teamed up with Jason Hart (also based in DFW) for coaching.

 

Maintenance costs on the 355 have proven to be very challenging when raced on a frequent basis and cared for so that all systems are always operating at 100% capacity. They are surprisingly cheap to keep in long term storage however.

I agree with John, the 360 is very appealing from a cost standpoint.

 

The only tinkering I have done is aero (wing and splitter) and replacing the broken stock shocks with Motons. Neither has done anything to impact running costs. Other than that I have each spent time and money getting the set-up right, but that should be true of any car. And the lap times show it has been more than just a few tenths. I think I have a full second on your personal best at MSR, and I'd be the first to admit you are a better driver.

Alternators and starters are failing at a rapid pace, the NASCAR replacements are still prone to issues.

We may have different definitions of 'heavy use'. In 2011 how many events did you run, 3 or 4? And no practice between events? The CCR is now up to 6 events, we will run them all, and have full tilt practice sessions in between. I was just at MSR on Saturday to put 2 hours on the car in 95 degree heat to test reliability. Next month before Watkins Glen we will put in 2 extra days of practice there. These cars are great for the casual racer, but taking a more serious approach to a full season begins to expose some warts.

 

I have had excellent reliability with my 355CH , I have run the same battery and Alt. since 2010 I have raced FCRA/CCR since 2011 and have had only a blown upper coolant hose for a DNF back in 11. Car has been tracked since 2005 with only normal wear items to contend with.

 

I agree with Pete. I think the 355 is the way to go, too! Simple and reliable as long as it's kept on top of and not . No pumps and electronics to deal with. Good old fashioned fun!

 

Above is why I race SRF. I am a cheap bastard who derives a perverse satisfaction from racing a car I really don't like that much. That said, I bet the new Gen3 powered SRF will outrun a 355 and maybe 360 at my home track MSR. Anyone want to see?

 

I think the new gen 3 SRF will be a great car, and will give that series a big boost.

 

Cost to Race CCR?

Taking a green flag with 30 other Ferrari purpose built race cars.....
Priceless.

Hope to find out soon!

 

😄

 

Ouch. My rough rule of thumb is to multiply the price of the car by 2 and budget that for a season. But I tend to crash in spec cars, too.

 

Wow.
That would be a budget of $300K for a season to run a F430C.
Better be a lot of parties and girls for that kind of moolah.

 

I will, thanks! Coincidentally they are just across the runway from my office at Addison so they sound like a logical choice.