Who needs a pension when you have a 355??

You seem a reasonable person with a common sense approach. Of course I see you point of view as well and it is not without merit. Particularly if you have a bit of mechanical knowledge. Just stirring the pot a little

However just as you can buy one cheaper to perhaps get that elusive bargain Ferrari so to will you likely need to sell it for less without documents. Documents for a Ferrari are different than for normal cars. They are more like pedigree papers when looking to buy a thoroughbred horse, to be scrutinised and cross checked. I've seen Ferrari's near perfect yet will sell for thousands less because they are UK or HK imports into Oz. For the most part good paperwork for a Ferrari goes beyond just stating what has been done to it but represents almost the heritage and blood line of the car and can be worth big money if all up-to-date and done by a reputable well known mechanic.

 

..and I would never call anyone names just some of the things I read may get a prickly comment or two

 

Funny how the thread deteriorated so quickly when certain 355 owners take offense. In my post several pages back we were taliking about maintenance needs for the 355. The thread is about if one needs a pension. That already was an incindiary title. The answer is no it doesn't or shouldn't anyway.

I stated an opinion, nay truism, that a 355 is always going to be more expensive than a 348 to maintain. Somewhere this was translated to an ugly girl versus an attractive. Then things devolved from there. Yep I do think the 355 clan can be a bit prickley from subsequent posts.

The car is not bad. It is pretty and fast and slightly more comfortable than a 348. Those refinements come with a cost, however, over the 348. I would personally have been happy to buy a 355 if the one I wanted had come up before the 348SS. On another level I am releaved not to have concern myself with the possible woes the model may suffer over a 348.

That's no guarantee that the 348 isn't going to crap out on me sometime. It is an Italian car after all. Jeff's 348 Spider blew a bank 300 miles from home and the car made it back on the other 4 cylinders. He replaced the lower end of the motor. Stuff happens. As a side note I am sure no 355 would have been able to get him home under those circumstances.

Nevertheless stating a fact about the 355 doesn't a) make it a bad car or b) bash it or its owners. I always felt 348 owners were more realistic about their cars than 355 owners, but not all.

 

Why does it seem every 355 thread ends up in the same place, maint. and high costs, throw in the inevitable " you dont even own one" comment that always rears its pretetious head and sooner or later all hell breaks loose , then the entertainment begins. Lol

I imagine owners of all other ferrai models read the 355 threads for the entertainment
" serenity now "

 

The thread was about how the 355 will be valued such that one does not need a pension and the other "clan" turned it into needing a pension to maintain the car. Pot, meet kettle

 

" the other clan" excuse me now my eyesballs have just rolled so far back in my head i have to go the the surgeon to have them put back in their correct places.


" serenity now "

 

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Why is it that you feel the need to interject yourself into discussions that you're clearly not welcome in? Are you completely oblivious to your trollish behavior?

 

Lol. Laugh out loud entertaining!!!!!!!!!


" serenity now "

 

You couldn't be more wrong.

The opinions come from Ferrari Techs, very reputable ones, who have about 30 years under their belts. They have been servicing these regularly.

I suppose you missed the thread about that magazine which featured the 355. Of all the 355 owners who were interviewed, not a single one would recommend the 355.

And by the way, before you accuse me of being one those 348 owners who bash the 355, I have always stated that the 355 is one of the sexiest automobiles ever built (that is correct, I didn't say one of the sexiest Ferraris, I said one of the sexiest in automobile history). I have stated this on at least 5 occasions, which is more than I have said about the vehicle that I own.

 

Can we all agree 355's are not for sissy's

 

I just purchased my first Ferrari (355) about a month ago and figured any disputes on this board would be Ferrari/Lamborghini related! Surprise! Ha! I am simply team Ferrari! Brothers and Sisters! Much love for the 348 and any Prancing Horse!

 

Yea, or you might get a 24HR ban and then what would you do with your life?????.....oh wait...go drive your F-Car maybe.
This place is way to uptight for me. Hell, the Audi RS4 forum was more fun then this place.
God forbid if you use that super nasty word "clown", you actually get a 24hr reprisal from this uptight joint!

 

It's weird, you have guys that own about the same car, just older, and they bust on the newer model constantly. I had a MB AMG e55 and never experienced this, I had a RS4 Audi and a CTS-V Gen 2 and never delt with this. My well know Ferrari INDY told my but I didn't believe him. Kind of a joke.

 

Sissys? - no.

Hairdressers? - yes

Me too, I'm just mucking about above.

Got to say guys, all this is really pointless. The idea of the article was that you could buy a 355 and it would increase in value so much that you could sell it to pay for your retirement. Nothing to do with the cost of keeping one, in fact it kind of assumes you're going to closet it away to keep it silly low miles.

What's even more pointless is this inter model bickering. A few years ago and it was pretty much all one sided - 355 guys knocking the 348. Now the 355 is being 'unloved' by the market some seem to be taking the opportunity to 'get their own back'. And some 355 guys seem to be pining for the days when they were 'top dog'. It's all a tad sad to watch. Sorry but it is.

The 348 and 355 are the same car. One is the 'raw' and original version, one is the 'refined', 'improved' later version. But they are in essence 2 versions of the same car. Quoting LdM saying how bad the 348 was and how good the 355 was is about as ridiculous as saying how much more fragile the 355 is than the 348. Each have their plusses and each their negative points. And neither is 'better' than the other, they are merely different.

 

Go back 3-5 years. See who's busting on who. Get back to me It's not right, but that's the reason.

 

Excuse me , if i may have permission to interject myself in a conversation where i am not welcome, lol. I think it has alot to do with LDM trash talking a perfectly fine car, for whatever egotistical reason, then introducing his "fix" , which is a spectacular looking and sounding car, but intruduced a whole new scope of inherent problems, but yet the 355 was his baby , he will not acknowledge the "fix" is worse in other,fundamental aspects, problems designed into car from day one , that for the level of the marque , should never have left the factory , ferrari should have made good on some serious repairs and then car car would not be as controversial and these conversations would be nonexistant


" serenity now "

 

I agree with you Pete. About 1 week ago I received tow back issues of Forza. The June 2014 edition of 355 buyers guide and the November 2013 TR buyers guide. While the 355 has a reputation of being expensive. There were only two major issues that were mentioned. Headers and Valve guides. There were five minor issues mentioned, one being the sticky interior parts. The TR's had 5 major issues mentioned as well as 5 minor issues, one being the sticky interior parts issue as well. Bottom line these are Ferrari's, some will cost more, some will cost less, but none are cheap. These cars are not investments at the present time, with running costs eating away at any appreciation. A recent R&T edition stated that an oil change on a Mclaren costs $8000. Makes the expensive Tubi headers seam like a bargain. Although there are other options for that as well.

 

By the way, I do like the TR as well, even though it is not cheap either.

 

The Forza Magazine article featuring the 355 Buyers Guide did ask 3 local owners if they would recommend the 355 to others and all 3 said "honestly- not really." This is not the same thing as saying the 355 is a horrible car to own or that these owners made a mistake in buying the 355 in the first place. Their opinions were just honest opinions from 355 owners who have been lucky enough to own several different Ferraris in the past or present time. All of the cons about 355 ownerships are the relative maintenance costs and significant number of mechanical gremlins that often arise out of ownership. Most of us do not dispute any of these things. Those of us who love the 355 will spend the time, effort(for those mechanically inclined) and hard earned dollars to keep our cars up to prime condition. Many people would likely be weary of spending the time, effort and money to keep up our 355's. I have personally spoken to one of the Owners who commented in the Forza article. I believe the message he meant to convey is that he would not recommend the 355 to most people wanting to start into Ferrari ownership, unless they really knew what they were getting into with a 355. In this light, I agree with him. Keep in mind, we both love our 355's and from what I understand will likely never part with them.

 

That's what I like about it. It keeps the whiners & the riff-raff out. Oh, they'll come by and talk trash, but they don't own one cuz they don't have the guts to buy and maintain one They go by 360's and such....whimps!

Yes, the 355 aint for sissy's and I, for one, like it that way.

 

With any car buyer's should know what they are getting into. Especially older Italian cars with no warranty.

 

Not really. We could only hope.

Kind of like kids yelling through the fence when they aren't let into the playground.

 

That is correct. Out of the "two" owners that were interviewed and that still own their cars for 19 and 17 years neither would recommend them.

Here is a quote from the article.
Why did you want an F355? It was pretty simple back when the F355 was new. That was when the curve started gong vertical in terms of improvements in quality and performance; the F355 was the first radical step up in that regard, such a better car than the 348.

So can one infer that the 348 is a poor car from this article. I wouldn't. Some might.