I've been following this thread for the past 4 years looking for the "perfect" 360CS....is it safe to say: a) The values of these cars have gone up b) Finding a white or yellow car with low miles is nearly impossible Quick question, would you guys say picking one up and giving up my R8 v10 would be a downgrade or upgrade? I really want to get a 458 but it's a bit out of my price range. 430 Scuds are close but I always had a special place in my heart for the CS similar to my passion for the NSX which is never leaving my garage. The R8 I see as a stepping stone car, nothing special but a fun car to drive around town. So Scud vs 360 CS or just wait till the values of the 458 come down? Whatever next car I buy must be white or yellow, in that preference of order thanks!
I can't really attest to a CS vs Scud debate, but I've had quite a bit of seat time in both a CS and the new R8 V10 Plus. The Audi obliterates the CS in terms of torque and the new double clutch transmission is really amazing, but it doesn't come anywhere close to feeling as "special" as the CS. Like you said, the R8 is a fun car, but the CS really makes an event of your drive...also the noise is just unbeatable. My 2 cents.
If the right CS came along I would get it. But I also know I'd have to sell within a year because I place more value on speed/performance than what the CS offers. So I am also looking at Scuds, but similar problem. My main hunt is for a red 458. Narrowly missed one 2 weeks ago, unfortunately. When I think rationally about it, holding out for a 458 makes more sense to me as I know I'll be happier and keep it longer. Kind of like buying the dream 68 Camaro RS. Was fun to look at drive at 6/10ths, but I really want new/speed/tech. Last comment - you can buy a CS and likely lose very little, depending on your state taxes and what repairs/maint you perform.
Have you driven a 458 much? I ask because they are chalk and cheese compared to CS and Scud. Much like the Audi is a "GT", so too is the 458 (many threads on this by persons that have owned/driven both). To be clear, this is not to say anything bad about the 458...they are amazing...but they do provide a very different experience than a CS or Scud. Finding a white CS will be nearly impossible...they exist, but don't come to market often.
Indeed the "noise" is fantastic. People always ask me what exhaust I'm running and they are generally surprised to find out it's bone stock. Why mess with perfection. CS is definitely an event to drive and that's what makes it special. Reminds me of driving the F40... old technology and slower compared to newer cars but the excitement is there! If the "right" CS came along? LOL You've been saying that for 4 years! I think you're better off with a 458 based on your speed/performance needs. I drove around a 458 spider yesterday and then the new Cali T. Both cars make the CS seem slow, but neither have the seat of your pants excitement of the CS. What he ^ said. Factory white CS will be impossible to find.
Dustman, Buy a SCUD, It does everything better than a CS and looks a lot meaner IMO. I get a lot of compliments on my scud as far as looks and sound and I just have the OEM exhaust with the flaps open all the time. Iam looking to sell my car but only to get a 16M.. Lets face it the owners of either car are NOT going to sell their cars short. If your going to turn either car find a good lower mileage car in a good color combo and have fun with it.
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ridiculous amount of money... I guess it is their starting point of the negotiation... Cs are not in the 200k range, even with low miles (not delivery miles) and luggage. That would make the luggage set worth about 40k! I am going to look hard for one then.
Recent actual sales would beg to differ with that opinion. Whether or not the car's are worth over 200K, well that's subjective. If someone's willing to pay it then it must be worth it to them, even if we can't see the logic. The beauty of a free market
I agree with you that it is subjective and driven by supply and demand. That said, I don't know of any CS actually sold over 200k (in the US that said) recently. Great examples sell in the 180k range, while drivers sell in the 140k range. Stokpro, you have data point supporting over 200k ACTUAL sale range now (no need for the actual details since most people prefer to keep it confidential)?
Last month a 650 mile car was sold by Miller Motorcars. This car was dicussed in this topic a few pages ago. Really great example!
I believe Andrew mentioned a sale over that figure on this very thread a few pages back, but did so as he usually does, very discreetly.
I respectfully disagree. I adore that tan leather interior, and I would want this exact car in its combo & with the additional bits like luggage etc. I believe it to be priced accordingly for a gentleman buyer like myself that would pay for the car to be as fitted ~ which is to my taste. I have had my Strad for about three years now but if I were in the market this is a car I would negotiate for. Amen. +2
$200K... if you want a creampuff that you won't drive. Not sure of the history/condition of what's out there, but I see cars way under $200K asking.
don't get me wrong, as a CS owner, I am thrilled to hear all these good news... but I am not one to drink the Kool-aid so easily... These 200k cars are bubble pristine condition cars that do not get driven. These are 2 examples vs. probably more than a dozen selling closer to the 150k price range. 200k is simply not the current actual selling price range for "normal" cars. And I consider normal a car that has no issues, no history (except service history!), but close to 10,000 miles on at least (i.e. is was driven some during its 10 years life). I bought my car for ~150k about 2 months ago, and you are telling me that it has already increased in value 10-20%... no buying it yet. However, I have a nice smile on my face every time I ride...
