As a current seller of a CS (and a 2 time buyer of the same) the avg selling price over the last 30 days is a tick over 170K, that's reality and that's the avg market price for the car. And as with any free market there are those within a few percent of that and then there are the outliers, which in the CS world are the 200K+ and the car's like mine that have more miles and are found sub 125K. As for appreciation, I measure mine in smiles per mile and could care less about the money one way or the other.
guys with 1288 units only ever made, it is defo a special car...but i remember reading someplace (where i can't locate now or remember) that it is even more extra special and hence the appreciation in price now due to it being the last true Ferrari homologated car (wherelse the Scud isn't) and it was built not on the usual 360 production line. can someone plz confirm or correct me and point me to where this is stated.....
It is mentioned in the description of a CS currently for sale at DKEngineering in the UK. No idea if it's true or not, but given the company's reputation and stock list, I'd be surprised if they were misrepresenting the facts. That said, I've never heard of it before, but it's pretty cool I guess. Regarding prices, my hunch is that, as an owner, you need to play the long game. I'd bet that price wise in 15+ years these cars will be stratospheric, with mileage far less important. There's nothing I'd change mine for that doesn't currently cost a significant multiple of its current value.
Per DKE site: "...When the 360 Modena was nearly four years old Ferrari wanted to homologate some improvements for their GTC racer and thus the 360 Challenge Stradale was introduced. The Challenge Stradale weighs in at just 20kg more than the Challenge and a staggering 110 Kg less than a standard Modena resulting in a dramatic performance increase. The Stradale features a host of aero and mechanical refinements that combine to make it 3.5 seconds faster around Fiorano than a ordinary Modena. Modifications include, Carbon Ceramic brakes as standard, a 50% lighter multi axial carbon floor plan, a 25 BHP increase in power, aerodynamic tweaks allowing for up to 50% more vertical loading (including a different bumper, boot lid and sills as well as venturi ducts at the rear), carbon racing seats with 4 point harnesses, a stripped out interior with alcantara dash and carbon door cards as standard and an F1 gearbox with shift times of just 150 milliseconds to name nut a few. This rare Challenge Stradale is presented in Argento Nurburgring with full Nero Leather Seats, Leather lower dash and Alcantara upper dash and a Leather rear parcel shelf. This LHD car was supplied to the Italian market in 2005 where it remained until being imported to the UK by DK Engineering. The car has covered 15,000 miles from new and is presented in fabulous condition as one might expect from such a well-cared for example. It was last serviced in November of 2013 the car will be supplied with a fresh service and thorough check by DK as part of a sale. This stunning Challenge Stradale represents a real opportunity to purchase what is already a classic, lightweight "homologation special" Ferrari..." $180,000 US
This tdf blue C/S is on ebay with a reasonable buy it now price of $139,500. Th title says it is clear. If it is a clean car this seems like a great deal. Sorry in advance if the car has already been discussed. Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale | eBay
Are there any issues with the car? If not seems like a great deal. That is my dream spec for a Challenge Stradale. Wish I could buy it.
this thread should be renamed the US CS Market Thread ONLY.....i see that anyone who posts anything here outside the US is almost ignored or not given two **** about ....no spirit of brotherhood at all...prob i come from the 348 forum where the spirit of camaraderie is very much alive..... even the ones here dubbed the "gatekeepers of the CS" actually only worry about promoting the US CSs ONLY......sorry for my rant but it's annoying..... even when i ask for technical help on the CS, hardly any help (except for the handful of the guys who are non CS owners)..... you guys are only keen on how a car is "storied or not", how well it is appreciating in the US, who has a better car or not and stuff along those lines.....this thread was one of the "reads" that got me hooked on to the CS but sadly it is "run" by a those hardly with the CS at heart.....disappointing
Your post is disappointing and ill informed. If you don't like what's being posted in this thread, then don't read it. Simple fix for you. cheers!
Anyone have additional info on ZFFDU57A040136122? Black on black with 14,xxx miles on sale at WWFerrari in New Jersey. It has clean car fax that shows 2 owners. I can see the airbag leather is in bad shape. Other than that, couldn't find anything else. Used Ferrari and Maserati Sales | New York Ferrari Dealer | ZFFDU57A040136122
bikz, Just going out on a limb and guessing the reason the US CS is discussed so much is those involved know these cars and have seen them here in the US. It would be hard to comment on a CS from most other parts of the world if those involved haven't seen, driven or know the history on that CS. As far as technical help, may I suggest starting a thread in this section or the "Technical" section of the forum and I am sure you will get answers.
It appears you do have a couple of tech threads and your questions have been answered, so I don't understand the issue.
The TDF on eBay was my car. I sold it back in January. Not sure what happened that is is up for sale so quick. Doesn't have much more mileage on it. It was the NA press car and it was delivered to the "current" owner with some good pedigree stuff (original magazine articles, unstuck window sticker, dealer book, etc.). I did a major on it last year as well as ball joints and a few other odds and ends. Sans the 4" dent the prior owner had, the car is great. Had full tool kit and books, interior is in very good shape. If you plan to drive the car and are not looking for a museum piece, this is a great car.
I inspected the TDF CS last week at the dealer, had paid a deposit on the car but on inspection had my deposit returned. The car has a rear brake disc (Rotor) on the front passenger side wheel - this can be seen in photos as far back as 2011. It looked really quite scruffy inside and had clearly had a lot of paintwork along the front end. To be fair the car had not been detailed or prepared by the dealer, but all in all, having done over 30k miles in my last Stradale without any restoration, this car looked very scruffy in comparison. I believe that it was sold by Ferrari after it's press duties with 3500 - 4000 miles, and at that point would have been like new. Therefore it really is a 7-8k mile CS, but has the wear of many more miles than that. If anyone can shed more light on the history of the car, particularly from 2004-2006/7 that would be great.
WTF happened to this car after I sold it. Ugh. PM me and I'll help you with as much of the older history I can. Ed
One word response from seller, so I chose to move on. The press history interested me,but the condition of the car is a bit concerning.
I've never heard of you prior to this post. If you have CS questions, speak up. I know these cars inside and out. I'd be happy to help. I also had a 348 for 20 years and spent a fair amount of time in that section. That 'Brotherhood' you speak of seemed more about bragging about bottom feeding and degrading the 348 than building it up for the great Ferrari that it is.
Did you do a formal ppi or is this just your subjective opinion from your own visual inspection of the car?
Thanks for the warm welcome to this forum. I was wanting to find out more info on the car that i wanted to buy but was disappointed with following inspection. My use of the language was of course because it is subjective, and only my opinion. Hence looking for others' opinions too. Does that answer your question? do you have anything to add?
Thanks, yes was only my own visual inspection, rather than a "professional" one. On discovering the brake issue, i didn't want to drive the car. Since the car is only a couple of hundred miles from where i live thought it better to see it before fully committing to buy it. My point of reference for comparison of condition was the last CS that i owned (sold about 4yrs ago in the UK) but a car which i used a lot. Along with lots of other cars just gives a good feel of what age/mileage/condition should be expected. The dealer was very fair and offered to rectify the issues found and didn't challenge them, however it just gave me an uneasy feeling about how the car had been cared for. Having spoken to one of the previous owners via this forum, i feel less concerned about the mechanical condition. Just cosmetics, which of course can be repaired/replaced/reconditioned.The car had been through many dealer services/inspection etc where the brake rotor issue had never been picked up. I still love the car! just need to find the right one.
