I have read elsewhere that this video is of a transport that was shot down previously. One point made was the paint scheme of the aircraft in this video does not match a Malaysia. Malaysia does not paint the belly or top of the fuselage in dark colors like what is shown in the video. I see them when they roll out of the paint hangar new.
That's why I said "supposedly" as another Boeing friend posted it. Not only the belly colors but even the size of the aircraft looks like a smaller transport.
It's probably the An-26 that was shot down the previous week. It's also too intact; I think that the 777 came down in pieces, either due directly to the missile strike or due to aerodynamic forces acting on the airframe after it went out of control.
No worries - I questioned it before I posted it but decided to let others decide. Got confirmation from the person that posted it and said it was a previous An shoot down relabeled. Mystery solved.
This is not from a missile strike. The bullet holes are clearly coming from cannon fire from both sides: http://jimstonefreelance.com/flightmh17370giant.jpg detailed MH17 analysis: Jimstonefreelance.com - The new root of truth. That Spanish air traffic controller Carlos told us on the first day that MH17 was shot down by two Ukrainian SU-25 jets and this piece of debris shows us exactly this is what happend. And it also explains why there was no mayday. They targeted the cockpit with cannon fire from both sides first and killed the crew. The perforated cockpit was then blown up by increased pressure from the incoming front wind at 550mph. The increased cabin pressure let the whole plane break in pieces. Once the first international observers arrived at the scene to take photos of all the perforated debris by cannon fire the Ukranian government resigned the next day. Coincidence? more perforated debris: Map of a Tragedy: How Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 Came Apart Over Ukraine - WSJ.com and even more: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/sets/ cockpit was targeted: http://www.bilderload.com/bild/348281/170619originalGA8E1.jpg --> http://www.bilderload.com/bild/348282/201407272220313AXOQ.png Exactly round bullet holes from an SU 25 cannon: 30-mm gun, type GSh-302 / AO-17A It has now also been confirmed that one engine was hit by an air to air missile. Shocking Analysis of the ‘Shooting Down’ of Malaysian MH17 AnderweltOnline: Shocking Analysis of the ?Shooting Down? of Malaysian MH17
Why would fighter pilots who can identify the plane visually have shot down a civilian plane? If this was an attempt to frame Russia then that is shocking, but we have also seen photos of the supposed rocket launcher leaving the seen ... Pete
The missile works by exploding near the plane and sending loads of metal shrapnel through its target, which is exactly how the wreckage looks like. The sites you link aren't exactly credible, jimstonefreelance.com was one of the sources in the debunked MH17/MH370 conspiracy which I posted about here some days ago. Edit: And Anderwelt one of the leading nutjob publishers here in Germany. Don't believe a single word.
"Jim Stone" (if that's even a real name) appears to be a total conspiracy theory hack. Pseudo-journalism at its absolute worst.
This will have to be answered by the people responsible. Remember 1915? RMS Lusitania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The damage on MH17 cannot have been caused by a BUK missile. As everyone can see there are bullet holes from both sides below the cockpit: http://jimstonefreelance.com/thumbnail17370.jpg http://jimstonefreelance.com/flightmh17370giant.jpg BTW, that video showing the supposed BUK missile launcher "leaving the scene" has been debunked The billboard in the background identifies the real location: The car dealership is located at Dnepropetrovsk Street 34, Krasnoarmiysk, not in Krasnodon or near Krasnodon as the media tell us. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7Ha90ZZbgWs/U8vwKlWUHoI/AAAAAAAAYIs/LM_7KqC6Dt4/s1600/MH17FakeVideo2.JPG http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mKQlaNgBBG0/U8wWvRqV2XI/AAAAAAAAYJA/HRsgvkSwD50/s1600/MH17FakeVideo3.JPG That video was taken 50 miles West of Donetsk in a city controlled by the Ukraine government and not 50 miles East of Donetsk where the separatist fighting is going on. Why don´t we hear this on the news? And what does the Ukrainian government intend to use their BUK anti aircraft missile system for in East Ukraine when they know that the separatists don´t even have airplanes? And why does London not release the data from the voice recorder and the flight data recorder? The FDR and VR of that other plane that crashed a week later in Mali have already been analyzed. It does not take that long.
Look at the photo again. Because that piece of debris clearly and undeniably shows that it was perforated from the outside and the inside: http://jimstonefreelance.com/thumbnail17370.jpg http://jimstonefreelance.com/flightmh17370giant.jpg The SU 25 has a 30-mm-cannon, Type GSch-302 /AO-17A Those exactly round holes are from cannon fire, the exit holes from the explosive charge. We know from that Spanish air traffic controller Carlos that one or two SU25 shot down MH17. He told the world on his twitter account right after it happened. Russia announced evidence Su-25 Ukraine comes close MH17 before the disaster [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO8e-hM15Zc[/ame] This piece of metal shows that the cockpit section was attacked from two sides and this is exactly why there was no mayday. In the meantime it has been shown that one engine was destroyed by an air to air missile. It is quite obvious what happened here.
I'm no fighter pilot, but exactly how would one go about attacking an airliner traveling at 550 mph "from two sides"? There was no mayday because shrapnel from the missile penetrated the cockpit and probably killed the flight crew instantly. Please take your ridiculous, half-baked conspiracy theories somewhere else.
And Elvis was flying the SU25 right? And a 25 on its best day can just waddle up to 33000 and if the motors are really fresh and he has no external stores might just be able to keep up with a 777. Ivan picked the wrong plane for the job. If the 25 was in the right place at the right time he might have been able to get a head on snap shot at the airliner. Jesus, no wonder the world is so screwed up. Some people will believe anything.
I'm no military expert, but If there was even a remote chance that an Su did fire at that angle there would have been a sighting by crew or someone on the plane. You are not firing rounds at long range. Vector, are you saying the fighter jets flew head on to one another while firing rounds at the cockpit of the airliner. Which means they would be in direct path of one another's bullets. You would see the entry angles of the bullets. Oh by the way. SU-25s are Russian built planes. It's maximum speed is 606 mph. Barely able to keep up with mh17. Those SU's would have been at maximum speed trying to engage a target.
MH-17 Flies Away From Crash Scene - Radar Reveals the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6lWg_nFe_I
All he knows is what he reads on Wikipedia. No mention of the facts that IR missiles are for defense on that aircraft, the pilots are not trained in air-to-air tactics, and the aircraft has no air intercept radar, making it unlikely the pilot could even FIND a 777 to shoot at it.... ...and if anyone thinks an intercept was directed by GCI, the US would have heard it, just like the US saw the SAM launch and detonation.
