LaFerrari Review Thread

Probably like 5

 

PS and XBox count?

 

Salut Francois,

Chalstrad c'est bien Peter. Bravo pour tes 6000 kms deja!! J'ai vu les photos de ta LF un peu partout, ca fait plaisir d'en voir une autre part que devant des hotels .

Andrew

 

I am somewhat confused with this, they harnesses either work or they don't, I'd be highly surprised if Ferrari fitted a car with what are effectively seat belts which do not work as intended.

Surely with adjustment they can be made to fit more snugly?

Nevertheless I think a street car would be pretty terrible with a 6 point harness, rather sneakily friend and I drove his 430 Challenge on the road a few times and getting out of 6 point harnesses every time soon lost its novelty.

Congrats on La Ferrari though and I reckon 6000 km's on a set of tyres isn't too bad for the performance and power of the car.

Great that you are using the car and putting km's on it!

 

I too have experience with 4 and 6 pt harnesses...they are all equally terrible on the road to be honest. But they look good and the 6 year old in me wants them always (as long as it's a serious performance car).

 

Porsche GT3 is better/more fun than Laferrari?

 

Have you driven one? Some interesting feedback?

De toutes façons, cette remarque de Monsieur François est un brin condescendante dans un forum public.
Tous les passionnés ne sont pas forcément des rois du pétrole ou de chanceux fils à papa.
Mais à ma connaissance ils ont le droit de s'inscrire et de s'exprimer içi, tout comme vous, monsieur François.

 

^this.

 

Certes mais il n'est pas obligé de partager ses impressions qui sont de toutes évidences bien plus intéressantes que les essais presses.

 

Tout commentaire est interessant. Je ne vois pas pourquoi on partirait du postulat que les journalistes sont plus bêtes que les propriétaires ou vice versa. Seules comptent compétence, intelligence et honnêteté.

Edit: quand un journaliste a le malheur de dire que la 458 est meilleure que la 650s il se fait incendier sur les forums. Idem pour les comparaisons laF / P1. Il faut arrêter de délirer contre les journalsites, à mon avis, et se poser plutôt des questions sur ceux qui les trainent dans la boue ou les encensent en fonction de ce qu'ils disent.

 

Did I eat a magic croissant or something?

 

Les avis des proprietaires comptent bien plus que ceux des journalistes qui sont souvent limites par le constructeur (Nombre de tours, temps limite, kms limite, voiture usine..). Un proprietaire, et d'autant plus un proprio qui sait bien conduire comme ceux que nous avons ici aura la chance de mieux connaitre la voiture que le journaliste pendant ses 2/3h au volant.

 

Salut,

C'est moi!! Je t'ai envoyé un PM

 

great to have your first hand experiences! ignore the fan bois on fchat and there are lots of really interesting views and experiences

 

Of course I haven't, otherwise I wouldn't be quoting someone else.

 

Dear Sir

If anyone here is condescending, it is you. As your French is clearly fluent you know exactly what I mean. In addition, you seem to be genuinely jealous of the people who can afford to purchase such a car by insulting them.

This particular gentleman happens to be a very capable racing driver (believe me, I know) and his comments are his genuine feelings about the car.

Why would you insult someone for sharing that?

I am surprised that the so-called moderators, allow you to behave in such a manner and it only goes to prove that there are too many silky arguments from folks like yourself who have never driven the car(s) in question, wouldn't know how to judge it if they had but certainly are know-it-alls with big mouths.
At the very least, you owe an apology for your behaviour.

 

I would add that journalists need to stay in good standing with factories.
As a result, even the best ones, incl. well renowned publications, end up producing "framed" reviews, using the communication tools provided by factory marketing dpt. Pretty much all reviews say exactly the same things and are ecstatic. (who wouldn't be, especially after a limited time in such a car!).

So journalists are not necessarily being biased, but it's certainly not worth the genuine independent reviews provided by savvy owners.
thefanch's review was extremely interesting and first time I can read such comments on the Lala.
We are lucky here to have such owners posting detailed reviews, pics...

 

Monsieur, soyez rigoureux et précis. Je n'insulte personne. Dire de quelqu'un qu'il est un brin condescendant n'est pas une insulte, c'est une opinion et un sentiment***. Ferrarichat est un forum public où tous les passionnés ont le droit d'exprimer leur avis, sans que quelqu'un n'ait à leur rappeler qu'ils ne sont pas des conducteurs ou des propriétaires. Ce sont ces passionnés qui majoritairement fréquentent les forums, achètent les revues et paient pour aller voir des courses.
Etant moi même un conducteur régulier de voitures de sport, je ne me reconnais pas dans une telle attitude, ni la considère élégante.
Je suis déçu par votre réaction, ayant beaucoup de respect pour votre passion. Je la mets sur le compte d'un réflexe logique mais non justifié de défense de "famille", vu que visiblement vous vous connaissez.

Dear Sir, be rigorous and precise. I do not insult anybody. To say somebody he is a bit condescending is not an insult, it's an opinion and a feeling***. Ferrarichat is a public forum where all fans have the right to express their opinion, without somebody not having to recall them that they are not driver or owners. These fans which mainly frequent forums, buys reviews and pays to go to see races.
As an usual Sport car driver I simply don't recognize myself in such an attitude, nor consider it elegant.
I'm really disappointed by your post, having a lot of respect for your passion. I consider this is a pure and logical but unjustified defence mechanism, considering your familiarity with him.

Punto e basta.


*** si vous relisez attentivement, je ne parle même pas de lui, mais de sa remarque que je qualifie de condescendante.
*** if you read careffuly my post again, you'll see that it's not him but a specific sentence of his post that I referred as condescending.


Et au delà de cette phrase que je considère malheureuse je ne doute ni de ses compétences au volant, ni de ses qualités personnelles.

This said, I have no doubt about his driving skills and other personnal attributes.

 

Alexklimt Nothing condescending in my post. I was referring to another thread where the P1 Lala and 918 are compared and it is seriously heated.
I think all three cars are equally awesome in their own way. I've only driven the Ferrari and as a result yes my opinions are strong about the car. The other two hopefully one day.
Now you on the other hand are insulting me calling me a daddy's boy and we haven't met. That's pathetic.
This is my last post so I'll try and answer some questions asked.
The harness debate. I agree guys. 4 points or 6 points, they re a pain on the road.
On the track the 4 point are surprisingly poor. Somehow they're hard to adjust and hold you poorly compared to real racing 6 point.
The best compromise is to have both, normal seatbelt and 6 pt. sadly ferrari doesn't offer this option.
Also I understand the weight saving measures of padding on the chassis but I personally that nothing beats a proper bucket when it comes to extreme cars.
The comparison with the GT3. Of course they evolve in different worlds the Ferrari is so much faster, they're not on the same planet in terms of performance, but since I was driving them back to back it was clear that the 911 was more track honed. The Ferrari is a better all rounder. The worn tyres clearly didn't help though.
Peter I got your pm thanks and see you soon!
Andrew good to hear from you too. Let's catch with silv soon when you're in Europe.

 

J'entends ce que vous dites Andrew, mais les généralisations sont dangereuses. Il y a de très bons journalistes essayeurs et des propriétaires qui ne sont pas forcément ceux qui pousseront leurs montures à la limite. D'ailleurs est-ce ce qu'ils veulent vraiment?
Le travail du journaliste c'est de faire partager une expérience entre les analyses objectives et les émotions subjectives, et de trouver l'essentiel à ses yeux dans ce vaste champ de jugements. Journaliste ou propriétaire seront finalement aussi objectifs ou subjectifs l'un que l'autre. Mais qui sera le plus proche de son auditoire?
Pour parler d'un SL 63 AMG, vaut-il mieux un article de Sport Auto ou moi qui la vend parce que ses capacités de bagages sont insuffisants pour une semaine de golf à deux?

 

Thefanch, I am saddened to see you leave this place. Please reconsider.

Ragarding the car, I think that you judge it using race car criteria, whereas it is mostly a street car (hence the 4 points harness instead of 6), that is also a track monster. Finally, you having found the car epic at the track when the tyres where new, seems to indicate that they were the culprits at Silverstone.

PS: Could it be that you chose the wrong seat size for your body type?

 

Sorry for the confusion. Je ne parlais pas de vous directement, mais voulais simplement faire partager l'idée que dans un forum public des jeunes passionnés pouvaient ne pas avoir la chance d'être en mesure de débattre à "armes égales" avec des gens plus privilégiés qu'eux, surtout si ceux-ci le faisaient remarquer. Je n'ai juste pas trouvé ça très cool. Mais je ne doute ni de vos compétences au volant, ni de vos qualités et valeurs. Concluons que ma phrase a été aussi malheureuse et mal interprétée que la vôtre. Nous en serons quitte, je l'espère.

 

+1. See my post above.

 

yes please reconsider

 

have u reconsidered ?