Fabspeed parts made in Taiwan?

So again what exactly is the difference between Agency Power & Fabspeed products, besides price ?

 

I just read the start of this thread and the above comment is given a lot of weight by what the company spokesman (Jeff) said (my emphasis added).

Quote: We have the capability to make them from start to finish in house. However, if we did that, we wouldn’t be able to meet demand nor would we be able to sell them at a price that keeps our customers happy. End of quote.

If I take that at face value it means they could make them but choose not to as they could not make enough -- or cheaply enough. So now they have stated that they don't make them in-house -- where do they get them from?
Alan

 

Here is one of JIMS product lists they sent to me a couple of years ago.
View attachment JIM TECHNOLOGIES.pdf

 

That explains why their cats have to come from somewhere else.

 

Indeed good point

 

Rob, I'll take that a little personally and respond. I'm a prolific poster, on any thread that interests me. I summarily reject that being an avid user of your forums makes me a troll. Secondly, I don't involve myself in just any discussion about Fabspeed that comes along, nor do I chime in when they are advertising in general, EVER, nor bring anything like this up where it doesn't belong. Again, summarily reject the offensive label. No need to skirt the issue(though does seem the thread for skirting issues), if you're saying the shoe fits, point at whom precisely. Thirdly, my comments have been restricted to purely what I do have direct knowledge of from experience, or the evidence at hand which has been a matter of discussion and can only be laid to rest by fabspeed. I think, again as an avid member of and believer in this forum, that we deserve to either have them directly answer, fully disclose or expect the thread to stay active. Calling people trolls for keeping up the pressure without crossing any line whatsoever is offensive. Be direct. Name names. If I be a troll now, guess I deserve my first ban in five years and 14,000 posts. Sounds like you're being pressured again. Why don't you just move this one to silver as well or lock it. If it keeps popping up with fresh posts, I'll do what I do in any other thread that interests me.

 

And I reject again that anything I have posted is trolling. You listed out your reasons a post could be trolling and mine don't fit the criteria. Which means I'm probably just being defensive

Edit: and I'm glad if it's been good for business. Truly. Love fchat.

 

Its simple Fabspeed simply need to disclose what % of each of their products in terms of their Base Cost (not List Price) are not manufactured in the USA

 

Rob,

Pm sent

 

so of course no further clarification from Fabspeed ??

 

Call me naive, but I always thought that it was because of the fantastic ppl / user base that made fchat that much more fantastic? And not a "business technique"?

I'm not saying I'm one of the fantastic ppl, I'm probably one of the sh*tballs that ppl, particularly the CS crowd, would like to choke to death...

 

Interesting

 

yes it's more the people who make this forum, not some great forum business technique, nor forum code. For crying out loud we barely get enough room for PMs before they are full.

 

That increases with your ranking. Make f1 champ and you'll have a much bigger inbox. Subscription has an effect as well i think.

 

I have been dealing with something similar at the company I work for. Our legal team referenced the Benson v. Kwikset case that went to the California Supreme Court.

Here is a link to a quick article about it:

Ridiculous Standards Make Made in the USA Labels Illegal in California

you can google the case name for a more info on the outcome...

 

I thought the PM box quota was based on your subscription? (50 PMs with non subscribed, 200 PMs with Silver, and unlimited with Rossa)

 

I have to agree with Rob on this. The structure, the moderators, the rules, etc are what makes this place unique and compels folks to come back. I have been on tons of other car forums and this one is so unique. It creates an environment where the right type of users keep coming back and the knuckleheads eventually get banned or frustrated.

 

I thought you guys in the USA used the Imperial system?

 

That's the English system -- we aren't imperialists.
Alan

 

This thread is ridiculous. In the interest of full disclosure, I personally know the owner of Fabspeed and I've been given the full tour of their manufacturing facility in Fort Washington, Pennsylvania. I had them custom fabricate an X pipe for my Audi S8 V10. You can find a video of it on Fabspeed's channel on YouTube if you're interested. There is no question it was made in Fort Washington.

I have also purchased and personally installed their headers and sport exhaust system on my 2002 360 spider. The components are of the highest quality and the installation was quite frankly a breeze. The sound is, in my opinion, much better than Capristo or Tubi, and I kept the factory CATS in place. FWIW, the system has never thrown a CEL. If some or all of the headers/exhaust system was made in Taiwan I don't really care because the quality was excellent, and the results exceeded my objectives.

I also have installed Fabspeed headers on my 1984 Porsche rally car as well as carbon fiber air boxes on my Carrera and Ferrari. My headers were absolutely made by Fabspeed in the US but I suspect the carbon fiber bits were sourced out of the country. Again, I don't care as the quality was excellent and the price was more than reasonable.

Fabspeed has to my knowledge ever denied that some components are made in Asia and their cats are from Germany. I think if you do any research you'll find that some components for Capristo are also made in Asia. The fact remains that Fabspeed's products do what they represent, are high-quality and a good value as far as I'm concerned as a customer and user of their products. I think if all you baiters and trolls out there look in your pockets, you would probably find that your iPhones were also made in Asia and not California. That doesn't make them any less great.

 

I'm sure what you say is correct and Fabspeed do design and manufacture great products. The discussion in this thread relates to one product - F430 headers.

How would you feel if you had spent time investigating the options for replacing the 'rubbish' OEM F430 headers. Learn't from the trusted source of FChat about Fabspeed as a Forum sponsor and manufacturer of quality products. Gone ahead and fitted Fabspeed 'made in the USA' headers to your prized F430 at a premium, only then to find out they are made in Taiwan by Jim and are available much cheaper elsewhere? No reflection on the product, I'm sure it works well, simply a very misleading sales pitch that means a product is sold at an inflated price.