daytime flasher 456M

You could use the fog lights, although that might bother oncoming motorists.

 

Excellent question. How are the fog lights different from the "flashers"?

 

Converting the parking light to HID projectors would probably be pretty straight forward. 575M headlight low beams are about the size of parking lights and there are plenty of kits out there.

 

Chris- I use the headlight flashers all the time, but do not have to raise the headlamps to do it.

 

Well there's a switch on my dash that has the foglight symbol on it and when I rock it forward, the round lights inside the grill go on. I flash with my turn signal stalk, which actuates the same lights. I'll take some pics and upload what I mean.

 

I just put the stalk in the parking lights position and flip the fog switch. The headlights stay down. Yours doesn't work this way?
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Flashes with the same lights (never tried to flash with the foglights on). Haven't looked in the back, but I'm pretty sure the rear lights are just illuminated in the normal way that they would in parking position. (I use a plate clip to hold my front plate on when I go to places where the police are likely to ticket me). There are threads about them.

 

Chris, that's confusing me as well.

I think one my car, there are 4 types of lights and I'll try to describe how they work:

- Parking: The small lights on the outside with the indicators in the front and back
- Fog: Only the back lights up
- Normal light: Pop up lamps
- Flash light: via the indicator lever, the round lights inside the grill

That's the same for you right? But seems to be different for Allan, whose Fog light includes the round lights inside the grill?

 

Mine is different, as shown in the photo. I had the engine on and the light stalk in the parking light position and the fog light rocker switch pulled toward me. (no one else was with me in the car and pulling back the flasher stalk to deceive you guys).

If you both have euro versions of the 456M, then most likely it is a transatlantic difference. If one is a US model, then maybe a prior owner of my car had the lamps rewired. I'm waiting for other US-spec 456M owners to chime in on this.

 

Yes, we both have the Euro version, afaik Chris' is from Italy, so is mine.
So we do need another non-Euro spec car owner to chime in here.

Are the fog lights reasonable to use as daytime driving lights in terms of impact for other drivers?

Edit: Here is another question, did you just turn on the parking light to show both of them or is there some sort of dependency for either to work (which might be a sign of rewiring)?

 

From the pattern they make on my wall, the lights have a sharp cutoff and should theoretically not bother oncoming traffic; I've never had people flash their lights at me as a sign to lower the beams. HOWEVER, Taz, whose opinion I highly respect, has said that it can be an irritant.

 

To use the daytime flasher as a permanent headlight doesn't work, light is too bright for the oncoming traffic. We installed a separate switch under the dashboard, the oncoming traffic had really no joy!

Now I have found a compact aftermarket light from AEG Automotive, my dealer will install it during the coming weeks. Not the perfect solution regarding the look, but comply with the law. Will send pictures if it is installed.
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I'm curious as to whether the US (foglights) and Euro Flashers have the same or different part numbers. It may be possible that, although they look alike, they have different beam characteristics.

 

I was thinking the same thing.
It's strange - why would they put these lights in purely for flashing in the Euro car? And if they did - why make them so strong that oncoming traffic is bothered by it?

Edit: Check this, Ricambi gives the answer - Ferrari 456M Parts : Table 127 - FRONT AND REAR LIGHTS - OUTSIDE FINISHINGS

Question remains, why have they done this? Essentially the Euro cars have no fog lights in the front, but have a flasher, which the US cars do not have?

Allan, what happens when you try and flash while the front fog light is on?

Here is what the manual says in the EU version. It looks like these are intended to be for high beam? Or is the high beam light part of the pop up light, I never actually checked that.

Anyone have the US manual?
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I'll check when I get home. The manual is in my glove box. I'll also try out the flashers when the fogs are on and see if there's an incremental difference of some sort.

 

Flore- You can download the US 456 manual for free at ferraridatabase.com.

 

Mine is also wired similar to Allan - not sure if was an aftermarket tweak - but I drive around with them on 90% of the time (and thanks to the 456m shutting off power to them when ignition killed). They are definitely not over bright and provide great look and read in the daylight. I've often driven in the late dusk with only the grill lights. Definitely will also try the stalk pull when on to see if ejects passenger.

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