2014 F1 SHELL BELGIAN GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

I suppose that in your assessment Mike Hawthorn wasn't a worthy WDC either then?

Moss won 4 GPs that year, compared to the man from Horsham who won just one, but collected many podiums on the way.

 

right..too bad about hammys flat tire

 

OK. I decide to go with the FIA. They awarded Keke the WDC because he met the sole criterion for winning a WDC--he had the most points. Accordingly, he won the championship that he deserved and he earned.

 

You're getting out there now. I did not blame Keke, nor did I ever say that he wasn't deserving. I only stated that he won the WDC by default, which the facts support.

 

I agree with others that some WDCs ahod have an asterisk next to them, but it seems about half of them should have some sort of asterisk! Lots of circumstances around many a WDCs. Keke earned his not so different than that of many others with stupidly dominant cars etc. It's a rare occasion that genuinely the best driver on the field in the best car wins the WDC.

Alonso should have bagged more WDCs, and Schumacher in the late 90s for that matter. Obvious

 

Jeez, but the winds of Rosberg hate are blowing hard and hot - now we have personal attacks on Keke directly related to a racing incident which Nico was involved in.

Low class stuff indeed - it even descends below Ham saying that Nico did not "want the championship as bad as he did, because Nico grew up in Monte Carlo"...

Utter BS - this race is over, move on to Monza.

 

To be more precise, Pironi didn´t lost his legs, although he needed years to fully recover.

About Keke and his championship, in the end this kind of arguments is quite irrelevant: in motor racing, as in most things in life, luck is a big part of the game and as Clint Eastwood said "deserve's got nothin' to do with it.''

 

So, if his competitors are plagued by unreliability, are eliminated through accident, or worse killed, a WDC winner inherit the tittle "by default".

With this logic, I suppose that Ricciardo won the Belgian GP by default too; after all, he benefited from a racing incident between the 2 favourites. The facts support that version too.

 

+1

 

Honestly: yes, Ricciardo was lucky. Without problems in the Mercedes camp he wouldn´t had a chance.

Yet, he had to be there...

 

Post of the day!

 

Yet, Ricciardo won 3 times this year.

I don't know if LUCK has anything to do with it, but he was the best of the non-Mercedes 3 times so far, and his team mate benefiting from equal machinery, one expects, hasn't won once this year.

Is that also LUCK ?

 

You're all over the place. You can't run from the facts. Weak analogies and comparisons to support you position...See if you can stay on point. Paleese..........

 

+ 1 !

 

The fact is that Keke Rosberg was declared WDC .

And it's you who is running away from that fact !!

Better drop it now, before you look even sillier ...

 

I don't think you can say he gave space in Canada, right?

I think the point he wanted to prove is that he could have crashed Lewis out in Hungary but backed off since Lewis had the position. This time he didn't back off while aggressively attacking.

I still don't think it was a smart move...if his car was truly faster (as he suggests) he should have bid his time until the pit stops or if LH made a mistake. By doing what he did, he risked not only crashing out his own teammate, but also crashing himself out. Had he done that, he would have left Spa TRAILING in the WDC by 14 points.

Not a phi beta kappa move, in my opinion. Yes, it worked out for him but I don't think it required the risk, ESPECIALLY on lap 2 of the race. What if LH's brakes failed? What if there was a safety car and right as Nico pitted?

Isn't he supposed to be the calm and calculating driver?

 

Make a sentence out of this, a beating your wall head on your against..

 

A fact never in dispute.

 

Having lived in the UK for 35 years minus a few years in Montreal, as well as being an Iranian on top of that, I feel that the British media coverage has been extremely fair...on the beeb DC's reaction was a "racing incident"...he's been there, done that with Mika.

James Allen was certainly anti - Schuey at times when he was a commentator but it was well after the Schuey/Hill days.

No doubt NR instigated it but if you look hard enough, LH did mention that on the thursday before the race, NR was still going on about how team orders weren't applied in the previous race.

Bottom line - no doubt that Rosberg caused the accident, but that was more idiocy than a premeditated move .

Best, Sammy

 

of course, we'll never know for sure!!
It worked for Nico on many levels.
Lewis has said he doesn't trust Nico any more....that's good for Nico!
Nico increased his lead in the WDC...that's good for Nico too.
Lewis will now have worked out that if he and Nico clash on the track, it most likely helps Nico as the number of races left count down. If that makes Lewis in any way tentative, then that's going to be awesome for Nico, because one of Lewis' big plusses is his aggression.

So, it's good for Nico if Lewis now thinks that when things get tight, Nico will no longer jump out of the way, like he has in the past.

This year is fascinating on so many levels.

 

^^^^Can't argue with the above - fascinating indeed.

 

From this standpoint yesterday was a monster victory for NR-he took more points home and showed he wont be ****ed with. LH needs to concentrate on the job at hand and avoid playing the mind games-be more like Ricci lol.

 

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Fully agreed.

 

Which is exactly why Nico didn't yeild and why Senna did the same to Prost and Prost to Lauda and so on ...

Pete